From: Stan Shebs <stan@codesourcery.com>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: drow@false.org, eliz@gnu.org, vladimir@codesourcery.com,
gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Move GDB to C++ ?
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:02:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48932580.3000405@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808011352.m71Dq1iY027637@brahms.sibelius.xs4all.nl>
Mark Kettenis wrote:
> Guys, can we please stop this! These discussions are now taking up
> almost all the time I have to hack on GDB. I feel obliged to take
> part in them because I see them as a threat for the platforms I care
> about, and the way GDB is shipped on those platform. But I really
> hate it.
>
I agree, seems pretty much beat to death at this point. I originally
brought it up because I wanted to get a sense of where everybody was at
these days. People's attitudes toward programming languages do change,
but not because of mailing list discussion.
> More concretely. On OpenBSD we build GDB as a native debugger on all
> our platforms. Some of these platforms still use GCC 2.95.3, because
> later versions are slower, have a bigger memory footprint and have
> more bugs, at least as far as the C compiler is concerned. Others use
> GCC 3.3.5 for much the same reason. This is unlikely to change soon,
> especially if GCC is going to be rewritten in C++. Rewriting GDB in
> C++ is bad news for those platforms because GCC 2.95.3 is not a very
> good C++ compiler and ships with an outdated STL library. I don't
> think exception handling works reliably on all these platforms.
> Things will get even slower and will probably require more memory than
> some of my machines have.
>
This sounds like a good litmus test actually. Either ensure that GDB
continues to run, and reasonably well, on OpenBSD, or drop OpenBSD as a
supported native.
> I don't think it is acceptable to effectively drop support for a
> platform for which there is a fairly active developer.
>
Perhaps you'll get some company, if C++ fans set up OpenBSD systems so
as to see what language features they can expect to work. :-)
Stan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-01 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-10 18:46 Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 19:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 20:01 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 20:04 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-10 20:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-10 21:31 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 22:30 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-10 23:49 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-11 6:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 12:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 12:23 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-11 16:03 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-10 21:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-11 6:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-07-11 8:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 9:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-07-11 9:32 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 14:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 14:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 14:54 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 15:30 ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-11 16:09 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-11 16:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-12 5:41 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-29 17:29 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-29 18:08 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-29 18:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:05 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-29 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:35 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-30 7:18 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 12:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 12:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-30 15:39 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:45 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:05 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:42 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-31 15:37 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:30 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:56 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-31 9:03 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-31 9:33 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 10:07 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-30 5:24 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-30 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:29 ` David Carlton
2008-07-30 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-31 4:52 ` Michael Veksler
2008-07-31 20:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-07-30 9:25 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 11:55 ` Salvatore Lionetti
2008-07-30 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:19 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-29 23:59 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 19:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2008-07-10 22:41 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-11 9:57 ` Andrew STUBBS
2008-07-11 11:44 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 12:43 ` Pierre Muller
2008-07-11 13:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-13 23:18 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-14 0:15 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-14 8:49 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 13:21 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 15:54 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:03 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:23 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 16:39 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 17:53 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-16 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-14 17:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-14 16:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-14 16:15 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:18 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:21 ` Bob Rossi
2008-07-14 16:31 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 19:00 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-12 3:30 ` Michael Snyder
2008-07-14 14:54 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-20 14:36 ` Michael Eager
2008-07-31 8:40 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-31 14:37 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 22:30 ` GDB to C++ issue: deletion Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 22:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-31 22:58 ` Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 23:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 5:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-08-01 8:52 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 12:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 14:57 ` Paul Koning
2008-08-01 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:51 ` André Pönitz
[not found] ` <20080801125124.GA13594@caradoc.them.org>
[not found] ` <uzlnwn9jq.fsf@gnu.org>
2008-08-01 13:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 15:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:40 ` Problem with can_use_hw_breakpoint Jeremy Bennett
2008-08-12 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:56 ` Jeremy Bennett
2008-07-31 20:00 ` Move GDB to C++ ? Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 14:04 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04 9:34 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 14:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 16:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 5:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 9:22 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 10:00 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-08-01 14:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:02 ` Stan Shebs [this message]
2008-08-01 15:05 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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