From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@gnu.org>
To: Andrew STUBBS <andrew.stubbs@st.com>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Move GDB to C++ ?
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:14:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48775C98.9080209@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48772D22.1050602@st.com>
Andrew STUBBS wrote:
> Tom Tromey wrote:
>> I think GDB is nearly written in a dialect of C++ already:
>
> ...
>
>> In all these cases, the C++ code is, in my opinion, simpler to read
>> and write than the corresponding gdb code. It is also more regular;
>> whereas in gdb some "virtual methods" take a 'this' pointer, some do
>> not; some classes have destructors, some do not (these are both things
>> I ran into on the Python branch). Finally, C++ provides better
>> support for abstraction, specifically via access control.
>
> I tend to agree with this statement. In particular I would say that
> destructors would be much easier to follow than cleanups.
>
> I'm not going to make any judgement about whether there's a business
> case for doing the work, but here's a question:
>
> A while ago there was some idea of a libgdb that would abstract the
> debugger back end from the interface (or I may have totally
> misunderstood what the whole thing was about). I haven't heard much
> about it recently, and the libgdb that exists seems to be something of
> a build artefact, rather than a useful abstraction.
I think of it as a good high level concept, but yes, as Daniel points
out, the libgdb implementation and approach are long dead. For
instance, if gdb were more clearly broken into a number of components,
we'd be able to implement tools such as gstack and gcore directly (as
they were intended) and not as wrappers or hacks around the gdb cli. An
initial step might be to clarify these internal interfaces, any thoughts
on that?
> If such an idea still exists, what affect would switching to C++ have
> on that plan? Would it make it easier? Or would it just make it
> incompatible with non-C++ projects?
>
I think it would help. For instance, Eclipse has started pushing a more
abstract debugger interface - DSF - it expects the target to implement a
very abstract O-O model of the target system. Being able to implement
such an O-O models directly in an O-O language would greatly simplify
things.
Such an abstraction may even prove useful to the Python bindings, I'd
imagine the combination of that and PyGtk to be a very empowering.
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Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-10 18:46 Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 19:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 20:01 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 20:04 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-10 20:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-10 21:31 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 22:30 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-10 23:49 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-11 6:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 12:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 12:23 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-11 16:03 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-10 21:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-11 6:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-07-11 8:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 9:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-07-11 9:32 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 14:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 14:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 14:54 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 15:30 ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-11 16:09 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-11 16:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-12 5:41 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-29 17:29 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-29 18:08 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-29 18:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:05 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-29 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:35 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-30 7:18 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 12:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 12:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-30 15:39 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:45 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:05 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:42 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-31 15:37 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:30 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:56 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-31 9:03 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-31 9:33 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 10:07 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-30 5:24 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-30 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:29 ` David Carlton
2008-07-30 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-31 4:52 ` Michael Veksler
2008-07-31 20:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-07-30 9:25 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 11:55 ` Salvatore Lionetti
2008-07-30 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:19 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-29 23:59 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 19:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2008-07-10 22:41 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-11 9:57 ` Andrew STUBBS
2008-07-11 11:44 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 12:43 ` Pierre Muller
2008-07-11 13:14 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2008-07-13 23:18 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-14 0:15 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-14 8:49 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 13:21 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 15:54 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:03 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:23 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 16:39 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 17:53 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-16 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-14 17:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-14 16:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-14 16:15 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:18 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:21 ` Bob Rossi
2008-07-14 16:31 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 19:00 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-12 3:30 ` Michael Snyder
2008-07-14 14:54 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-20 14:36 ` Michael Eager
2008-07-31 8:40 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-31 14:37 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 22:30 ` GDB to C++ issue: deletion Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 22:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-31 22:58 ` Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 23:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 5:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-08-01 8:52 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 12:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 14:57 ` Paul Koning
2008-08-01 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:51 ` André Pönitz
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[not found] ` <uzlnwn9jq.fsf@gnu.org>
2008-08-01 13:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 15:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:40 ` Problem with can_use_hw_breakpoint Jeremy Bennett
2008-08-12 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:56 ` Jeremy Bennett
2008-07-31 20:00 ` Move GDB to C++ ? Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 14:04 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04 9:34 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 14:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 16:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 5:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 9:22 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 10:00 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-08-01 14:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:02 ` Stan Shebs
2008-08-01 15:05 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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