From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@gnu.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: stanshebs@earthlink.net, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Move GDB to C++ ?
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:29:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <488F4AA7.7060001@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807101901.m6AJ1UMQ007185@brahms.sibelius.xs4all.nl>
Mark Kettenis wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:46:15 -0700
>> From: Stan Shebs <stanshebs@earthlink.net>
>>
>> As many know, there is a project afoot to investigate the recoding of
>> GCC from C into C++. I believe the C++ idea was briefly touched on for
>> GDB at the summit, although I don't remember much discussion. Anyway,
>> this would be a good time to start thinking about it, and if people are
>> generally in favor of the idea, we can start small by tweaking the
>> sources to be C++-friendly, avoiding keywords and so forth; GCC has a
>> new warning flag -Wcxx-compat that can help.
>>
>
> I think this is an absolutely retarded idea. C++ is a horrible
> programming language.
>
Mark,
I appreciate your pain here - as some would put it "C++ is the answer,
now what was the question? :-)" - and having considered this further,
wonder if both this thread and a proposed implementation as part of the
archer project are being too quick to put the C++ cart before the
architectural horse :-)
Instead of changing GDB to C++ and hoping the change will magically
transform GDB's code base into a clean ideal design; should we instead
be focused on trying to address what I suspect is the underlying
motivation here - a desire to clean up and re-structure GDB's code base
so that it more clearly corresponds to a more modern Object Oriented design?
If we consider this as an important goal, and find a way to more
smoothly facilitate this development (multi-arch, at 9 years, in my not
so humble opinion, was too slow) we'll be able to improve GDB's
internal architecture without using C++. Then, in time, with a clearer
O-O design, we can re-consider choices such as language.
Thoughts?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-29 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-10 18:46 Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 19:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 20:01 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 20:04 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-10 20:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-10 21:31 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-10 22:30 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-10 23:49 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-11 6:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 12:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 12:23 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-11 16:03 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-10 21:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-11 6:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-07-11 8:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 9:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-07-11 9:32 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-11 14:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-11 14:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 14:54 ` Paul Koning
2008-07-11 15:30 ` Pedro Alves
2008-07-11 16:09 ` Dave Korn
2008-07-11 16:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-12 5:41 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-29 17:29 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2008-07-29 18:08 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-29 18:09 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:05 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-29 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-29 19:35 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-30 7:18 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 12:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 12:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-30 15:39 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-30 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 19:45 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:05 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-30 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:42 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-31 15:37 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:30 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-30 19:56 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-31 9:03 ` André Pönitz
2008-07-31 9:33 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 10:07 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-30 5:24 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-30 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:29 ` David Carlton
2008-07-30 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-31 4:52 ` Michael Veksler
2008-07-31 20:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-07-30 9:25 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-30 11:55 ` Salvatore Lionetti
2008-07-30 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 19:19 ` Stan Shebs
2008-07-29 23:59 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-10 19:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2008-07-10 22:41 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-11 9:57 ` Andrew STUBBS
2008-07-11 11:44 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-11 12:43 ` Pierre Muller
2008-07-11 13:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-13 23:18 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-14 0:15 ` Nick Roberts
2008-07-14 8:49 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 13:21 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 15:54 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:03 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:23 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 16:39 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 17:53 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-16 19:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-14 17:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-07-14 16:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-14 16:15 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:18 ` Robert Dewar
2008-07-14 16:21 ` Bob Rossi
2008-07-14 16:31 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-14 19:00 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-12 3:30 ` Michael Snyder
2008-07-14 14:54 ` Andrew Cagney
2008-07-20 14:36 ` Michael Eager
2008-07-31 8:40 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-07-31 14:37 ` Alpár Jüttner
2008-07-31 22:30 ` GDB to C++ issue: deletion Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 22:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-31 22:58 ` Paul Hilfinger
2008-07-31 23:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 5:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2008-08-01 8:52 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 12:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 14:57 ` Paul Koning
2008-08-01 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:51 ` André Pönitz
[not found] ` <20080801125124.GA13594@caradoc.them.org>
[not found] ` <uzlnwn9jq.fsf@gnu.org>
2008-08-01 13:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 15:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:40 ` Problem with can_use_hw_breakpoint Jeremy Bennett
2008-08-12 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 14:56 ` Jeremy Bennett
2008-07-31 20:00 ` Move GDB to C++ ? Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 14:04 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04 9:34 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 14:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-01 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 16:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 5:55 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 9:22 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 10:00 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-02 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-08-01 14:11 ` André Pönitz
2008-08-01 15:02 ` Stan Shebs
2008-08-01 15:05 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-08-01 15:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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