From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Petr Ovtchenkov <ptr@void-ptr.info>
Cc: Matt Rice <ratmice@gmail.com>,
Fiodar Stryzhniou <fedor_qd@mail.ru>,
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>, GDB <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:39:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8740f2a7-1300-3116-f34b-5487a8cd8b2b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170921152240.16bb4cc0@void-ptr.info>
On 09/21/2017 01:22 PM, Petr Ovtchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:36:46 +0100
> Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com> wrote:
>> I.e., this whole thread feels like the classical XY problem.
>>
>> What is the actual problem that you're trying to solve?
>
> Problem remains original.
>
> "Automatic date update in version.in" commits are
> - litter commits tree
> - create problems for deterministic, bit-identical and/or verifiable builds.
[snip distractions from the original problem]
> Am I quite clear?
No.
The "litter" problem is real, but minor.
The determinism claim would have merit, if it were a real problem.
But it's not. Every checkout of a given git hash gets the exact
same sources with the same date stamp. It's totally deterministic.
So again, what problem are you trying to solve?
Thanks,
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-21 12:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-21 5:03 Fiodar Stryzhniou via gdb
2017-09-21 8:42 ` Matt Rice
2017-09-21 10:58 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 11:37 ` Pedro Alves
[not found] ` <20170921152240.16bb4cc0@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-21 12:39 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2017-09-21 13:17 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 13:34 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 15:46 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:01 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 16:03 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-21 16:26 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:34 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 16:52 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:00 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 17:39 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 23:59 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 5:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 6:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-22 9:29 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 22:26 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 22:35 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 9:49 ` [PATCH] bfd/version.h: Add rationale for BFD_VERSION_DATE (Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits) Pedro Alves
2017-09-22 13:38 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 13:47 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-22 13:59 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 17:17 ` meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits Joseph Myers
2017-09-21 17:31 ` Matt Rice
[not found] <20170920173622.28500ccf@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-20 15:05 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-20 15:33 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:07 ` Ian Lance Taylor via gdb
2017-09-20 15:40 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 15:48 ` Dmitry Samersoff
[not found] ` <87zi9p2vma.fsf@linux-m68k.org>
2017-09-20 17:24 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
[not found] ` <7217d33d-61eb-732e-dfd6-80ef4908743e@ubuntu.com>
2017-09-20 19:21 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 19:27 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 19:56 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 19:57 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:07 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:21 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:26 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 20:39 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:34 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 21:34 ` Andreas Schwab
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