From: Petr Ovtchenkov <ptr@void-ptr.info>
To: Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, Matt Rice <ratmice@gmail.com>,
Fiodar Stryzhniou <fedor_qd@mail.ru>,
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>, GDB <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:46:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921184615.6b1e5d44@void-ptr.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0803d26603c37f8b637e7cfe401a784@polymtl.ca>
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:25:53 +0200
Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-09-21 15:17, Petr Ovtchenkov wrote:
> > And date stamp in version.in not play here at all. But,
> >
> > - if you insert date stamp into sources, you
> > i) keep "litter" problem
> > ii) make misorientation (what this date mean? commit date? - it
> > already
> > present in commit; and what commit date?)
> > - if you don't insert date stamp into sources, but add to SONAME
> > during build process,
> > it still not reflect ABI compatibilities, but may prevent "binary
> > reproducible builds"
> > (depends upon what date you use). I'm underline, that such addition
> > has no relation to ABI compatibilities, so such SONAME modification
> > lose sense.
>
> Binary reproducible builds mean that if you and I start with the same
> source code and same build tools, we will get exactly the same build
> artifacts. Here the build can't "depend on what date you use":
If "date stamp" inserted into binary is a build date, then we will have different
binaries. If we will use something else, for example "last commit" date,
then we may have "same" build, but may not. From equality of "last commit" date
not follow binary equivalence (consider cherry-picked commit, for example,
or variations of sample "git diff 3110f4be18a2 f625a739" I show above).
> you
> can't choose a date or another, the date is part of the code you are
> trying to build. So if you and I build from the same commit, we'll
> build using the same date, whatever date is in the version.h file.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-21 15:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-21 5:03 Fiodar Stryzhniou via gdb
2017-09-21 8:42 ` Matt Rice
2017-09-21 10:58 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 11:37 ` Pedro Alves
[not found] ` <20170921152240.16bb4cc0@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-21 12:39 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 13:17 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 13:34 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 15:46 ` Petr Ovtchenkov [this message]
2017-09-21 16:01 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 16:03 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-21 16:26 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:34 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 16:52 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:00 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 17:39 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 23:59 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 5:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 6:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-22 9:29 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 22:26 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 22:35 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 9:49 ` [PATCH] bfd/version.h: Add rationale for BFD_VERSION_DATE (Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits) Pedro Alves
2017-09-22 13:38 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 13:47 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-22 13:59 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 17:17 ` meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits Joseph Myers
2017-09-21 17:31 ` Matt Rice
[not found] <20170920173622.28500ccf@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-20 15:05 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-20 15:33 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:07 ` Ian Lance Taylor via gdb
2017-09-20 15:40 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 15:48 ` Dmitry Samersoff
[not found] ` <87zi9p2vma.fsf@linux-m68k.org>
2017-09-20 17:24 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
[not found] ` <7217d33d-61eb-732e-dfd6-80ef4908743e@ubuntu.com>
2017-09-20 19:21 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 19:27 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 19:56 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 19:57 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:07 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:21 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:26 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 20:39 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:34 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 21:34 ` Andreas Schwab
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