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From: Dmitry Samersoff <dms@samersoff.net>
To: Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>,
	Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	Petr Ovtchenkov <ptr@void-ptr.info>
Cc: binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <632663a3-d907-25f8-5ea5-e9db91ec7643@samersoff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa5a3960-e0f3-5452-3fdf-d1cb34d8d19a@ubuntu.com>


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On 20.09.2017 18:39, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 20.09.2017 17:05, Joel Brobecker wrote:
>> [adding the GDB group, as this affects both]
>>
>>> What is the meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits?
>>> I mean commits like f625a739e5.
>>>
>>> This commits litter commits tree and create problems for  	
>>> deterministic, bit-identical and/or verifiable builds.
>>>
>>> May be worth to remove this (historical?) artifact?
>>
>> We've had that discussion several times in the past. I'd be quite
>> happy to get rid of that daily commit, and most people here probably
>> would be too. The issue is that no one has been able to get us
>> to agree on what we should be doing instead, and then implement it.
>> Part of the obstacles, I think, is that everyone has their own idea
>> of the requirements that should be met. Maybe one solution would be
>> to ask the group of Global Maintainers to make a decision (at least
>> for GDB) once everyone had a chance to provide their feedback. Once
>> we have a clear plan of what should be done, I suspect finding
>> a volunteer to implement it wouldn't be too hard. I might even
>> take an hour or two in a weekend to look into that...
> 
> For binutils the date gets encoded into the libbfd and libopcodes soname, so you
> are pretty safe during development.  Maybe you could manually bump the version
> when it is needed, but I assume that is more difficult than the automated daily
> bump.

If it's the only purpose of daily commit, than the obvious solution is
to improve daily commit script and update version.in only if source code
changes.

My $.2
-Dmitry



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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170920173622.28500ccf@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-20 15:05 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-20 15:33   ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:07     ` Ian Lance Taylor via gdb
2017-09-20 15:40   ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 15:48     ` Dmitry Samersoff [this message]
     [not found] ` <87zi9p2vma.fsf@linux-m68k.org>
2017-09-20 17:24   ` Petr Ovtchenkov
     [not found]     ` <7217d33d-61eb-732e-dfd6-80ef4908743e@ubuntu.com>
2017-09-20 19:21       ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 19:27       ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 19:56         ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 19:57         ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:07           ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:21             ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:26               ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:31                 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 20:39                   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:34           ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 21:34     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-21  5:03 Fiodar Stryzhniou via gdb
2017-09-21  8:42 ` Matt Rice
2017-09-21 10:58   ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 11:37     ` Pedro Alves
     [not found]       ` <20170921152240.16bb4cc0@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-21 12:39         ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 13:17           ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 13:34             ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 15:46               ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:01                 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 16:03                 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-21 16:26                   ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:34                     ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 16:52                       ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:00                         ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 17:39                           ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 23:59                             ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22  5:31                               ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22  6:49                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-22  9:29                                   ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 22:26                                   ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 22:35                                   ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-21 17:17   ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-21 17:31     ` Matt Rice

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