From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Petr Ovtchenkov <ptr@void-ptr.info>, Matt Rice <ratmice@gmail.com>
Cc: Fiodar Stryzhniou <fedor_qd@mail.ru>,
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>, GDB <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:37:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <024439c7-2083-d368-0138-2160e4494b81@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170921135845.479dfc76@void-ptr.info>
On 09/21/2017 11:58 AM, Petr Ovtchenkov wrote:
> Date is worst thing that you may use in SONAME. Especially in conjunction
> with attempts to use DVCS as date source. (D == _Distributed_, so _no
> time ordering_). And I should repeat:
>
> - from datestamps equality not follow ABI compatibility,
> - from datestamps inequality not follow ABI incompatibility.
>
> What you want achieve with SONAME variations?
What do _you_ want to achieve with removing the date stamps?
You started the thread with:
> This commits (...) create problems for
> deterministic, bit-identical and/or verifiable builds.
... which is false. The rest of the thread seems like trying
to change the goal post in order to justify change so that as side
effect we'd fix the problem with determinism that you
claimed exists, but that doesn't actually exist.
I.e., this whole thread feels like the classical XY problem.
What is the actual problem that you're trying to solve?
Thanks,
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-21 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-21 5:03 Fiodar Stryzhniou via gdb
2017-09-21 8:42 ` Matt Rice
2017-09-21 10:58 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 11:37 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
[not found] ` <20170921152240.16bb4cc0@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-21 12:39 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 13:17 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 13:34 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 15:46 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:01 ` Simon Marchi
2017-09-21 16:03 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-21 16:26 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 16:34 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 16:52 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:00 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-21 17:39 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 23:59 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 5:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 6:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-22 9:29 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-22 22:26 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 22:35 ` H.J. Lu
2017-09-22 9:49 ` [PATCH] bfd/version.h: Add rationale for BFD_VERSION_DATE (Re: meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits) Pedro Alves
2017-09-22 13:38 ` Alan Modra
2017-09-22 13:47 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-22 13:59 ` Pedro Alves
2017-09-21 17:17 ` meaning of "Automatic date update in version.in" commits Joseph Myers
2017-09-21 17:31 ` Matt Rice
[not found] <20170920173622.28500ccf@void-ptr.info>
2017-09-20 15:05 ` Joel Brobecker
2017-09-20 15:33 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-21 17:07 ` Ian Lance Taylor via gdb
2017-09-20 15:40 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 15:48 ` Dmitry Samersoff
[not found] ` <87zi9p2vma.fsf@linux-m68k.org>
2017-09-20 17:24 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
[not found] ` <7217d33d-61eb-732e-dfd6-80ef4908743e@ubuntu.com>
2017-09-20 19:21 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 19:27 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 19:56 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 19:57 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:07 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:21 ` Matthias Klose
2017-09-20 20:26 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:31 ` Petr Ovtchenkov
2017-09-20 20:39 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2017-09-20 20:34 ` Mikhail Terekhov
2017-09-20 21:34 ` Andreas Schwab
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