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From: Bob Rossi <bob@brasko.net>
To: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Hooks still needed for annotations
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:31:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050615163147.GD20778@white> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050615160749.GA17626@nevyn.them.org>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:07:49PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:52:48AM -0400, Bob Rossi wrote:
> > > I don't much think a parser is GDB's responsibility.  Offering one as a
> > > convenience, sure, maybe.  Note that a lot of frontends won't get to
> > > use it anyway!  If we ship it with GDB, then it's going to be covered
> > > under the GPL.
> > 
> > Well, could I maintain a copy under the LGPL, and then contribute all of
> > the modifications to the FSF GDB under the GPL?
> 
> LGPL would not help much; you'd need something BSD-ish.  You could, of
> course, do whatever you wanted to do with code that you wrote.  But I
> don't think there's much point to that; if you contribute it to GDB,
> that will be so that other developers can help you maintain it and keep
> it up to date with changes in MI.  You won't get all the other GDB
> contributors to relicense their work.

O Right. Sorry to even bring it up. What is the stand of the FSF
regarding an LGPL library? and why do you think that the parser would 
have to be under a more academic license instead of a reciprocal
license?

> > Either way, I don't care much about commercial tools. If a good parser
> > is created, I think it's possible a lot of front ends will use it. For
> > instance, KGDB, DDD and GVD are all free projects that could benefit
> > from such a technology. Right?
> 
> KGDB is a stub, not a frontend.  DDD could use it - not sure if
> anyone's updating DDD enough nowadays to bother.  GVD could, but would
> be unlikely to unless you wrote the parser in Ada!  (Not that Ada can't
> use C bindings, but the GPS maintainers would presumably prefer
> language consistency.)

Well, I already have planned a way to translate the parse tree into Tcl.
I am going to walk the parse tree and then build up a Native Tcl parse
tree using callbacks. By doing this, I can write testcase's in Tcl using 
the parse tree. This would really allow for a much higher level of testing.
The ADA developers could use the exact same approach and it would be much 
more trivial for them to do so.

I'm getting a vibe from you that you think writing a parser could be a
bad idea. Do you really think that the community wouldn't embrace such a
parser? The whole reason I decided to create it (or at least in the
works) is because I was frustrated with the thought of writing yet
another low level parser to parse the MI. I just wanted one that worked,
and worked well. Even more than that, I wanted one that I didn't have to
constantly maintain. I mean, Nick and I are already going to create 
two different parsers. As things evolve, and the parser's need to work
with old versions of GDB, different bugs will pop up in each. I think
this hurts GDB in the long run. I also firmly think that the
only possible way to get a stable MI parser is to test it in GDB's
testsuite.

Thanks,
Bob Rossi


  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-15 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-01  7:15 Nick Roberts
2005-06-01 11:30 ` Bob Rossi
2005-06-01 21:31   ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-03 19:09     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-03 22:35       ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-03 23:59         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-04  3:19           ` Nick Roberts
2005-07-03 17:03             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-07-03 22:13               ` Nick Roberts
2005-07-03 22:44                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-04 13:02           ` Bob Rossi
2005-06-13  3:14             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-15 15:52               ` Bob Rossi
2005-06-15 16:07                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-15 16:31                   ` Bob Rossi [this message]
2005-07-03 16:45                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-06-15 23:07                 ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-15 23:29                   ` Bob Rossi
2005-07-01  0:21               ` Bob Rossi
2005-07-01  1:18                 ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-06 21:57           ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-10  2:26             ` Bob Rossi
2005-06-10  3:25               ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-15 15:24                 ` Bob Rossi
2005-06-15 21:38                   ` Nick Roberts
2005-06-15 22:58                     ` Bob Rossi
2005-07-03 16:39                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-07-06 15:03                         ` Bob Rossi
2005-07-15  0:03                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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