From: Luis Machado via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>, Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>
Cc: "Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb" <gdb@sourceware.org>,
"Aktemur, Tankut Baris" <tankut.baris.aktemur@intel.com>
Subject: Re: automated coding style tool
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:20:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb68c1e3-3c5b-4c61-a87d-b8aa2964dfb1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87msftuhd3.fsf@tromey.com>
On 1/14/25 23:04, Tom Tromey wrote:
> Simon> If we don't like what the tool outputs, we can argue over than
> Simon> and change the tool.
>
> Yeah - but that's where we're already at. Like, I ran clang-format on
> gdb and read the diffs and found a bunch of things I didn't like. IIRC
> the main offenders were bin-packing. I imagine Pedro did this too,
> since he's made similar comments in the past.
>
> I at least CCd myself on upstream bugs against the tool. I commented
> on some, maybe filed some too (don't remember).
>
> I'm not super interested in hacking on clang-format, but the tool is
> there and all the information for someone who is.
>
> Simon> Also, if are missing some features to get the output we want, nobody is
> Simon> going to magically implement them for us. And if we don't use the tool,
> Simon> there's no motivation for us either to go implement the changes. I
> Simon> think that the only way to get the ball rolling is to start using the
> Simon> tool, even if the output is not ideal, and then if there's something
> Simon> really annoying, one of us *might* have the motivation to go improve the
> Simon> tool.
>
> I'm in favor of using a tool but my view is that it has to meet some
> minimal standard of usefulness. I just think clang-format does not do
> this.
That's fair. But are we factoring in the amount of time spent over the years
telling contributors "you forgot a space here", "two spaces after period"?
I tend to think that is not a good use of one's time. I reviewed some output
from applying clang-format --style=gnu on gdb's sources, and it looks generally
fine to me.
Some stuff is a bit different and some other stuff is very different. But
personally I'm willing to see this automation go through and I'm fine
adapting to a potentially new format, whatever that is.
I might've mentioned this already, but for folks that deal with multiple projects,
the norm is to have to deal with varying styles. So it becomes even more of a burden
to try to remember the GNU style that mostly applies to C and not C++, even though
the project is C++ now.
In summary what I want to say is that I'd go for it. If later we want to tweak
things, we can. This sounds like it agrees with Simon as well.
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2025-01-13 17:42 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:17 ` automated coding style tool (was: RE: DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb) Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:11 ` automated coding style tool Tom Tromey
2025-01-14 17:14 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:23 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 23:04 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-15 6:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-18 18:39 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-22 22:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-15 10:20 ` Luis Machado via Gdb [this message]
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2025-01-17 13:42 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb
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2025-01-17 15:55 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-17 17:36 ` Phi via Gdb
2025-01-17 19:27 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-18 18:56 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-20 11:30 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:15 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 9:49 ` DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:10 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:28 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:47 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 16:33 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-15 11:49 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-14 16:46 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb
2025-01-15 11:25 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-15 6:20 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-15 11:05 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-14 15:28 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-17 10:42 ` Florian Weimer via Gdb
2025-01-17 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-19 16:37 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-27 15:55 ` DCO Bradley M. Kuhn via Gdb
2025-01-27 16:36 ` DCO Krzysztof Siewicz via Gdb
2025-01-27 17:22 ` DCO Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2025-01-31 19:36 ` DCO Mark Wielaard
2024-06-18 13:32 ` DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb Michael Matz via Gdb
2024-06-19 7:38 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-19 12:07 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2024-06-25 22:27 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-26 17:38 ` Tom Tromey
2024-06-28 7:23 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
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