From: "Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb" <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>, Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
"Simon Marchi" <simark@simark.ca>
Cc: "Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: automated coding style tool
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 12:24:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM4PR11MB7303EFADCF78D45428BD324FC4192@DM4PR11MB7303.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb68c1e3-3c5b-4c61-a87d-b8aa2964dfb1@arm.com>
On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 11:20 AM Luis Machado wrote:
> On 1/14/25 23:04, Tom Tromey wrote:
> > Simon> If we don't like what the tool outputs, we can argue over than
> > Simon> and change the tool.
> >
> > Yeah - but that's where we're already at. Like, I ran clang-format on
> > gdb and read the diffs and found a bunch of things I didn't like. IIRC
> > the main offenders were bin-packing. I imagine Pedro did this too,
> > since he's made similar comments in the past.
> >
> > I at least CCd myself on upstream bugs against the tool. I commented
> > on some, maybe filed some too (don't remember).
> >
> > I'm not super interested in hacking on clang-format, but the tool is
> > there and all the information for someone who is.
> >
> > Simon> Also, if are missing some features to get the output we want, nobody is
> > Simon> going to magically implement them for us. And if we don't use the tool,
> > Simon> there's no motivation for us either to go implement the changes. I
> > Simon> think that the only way to get the ball rolling is to start using the
> > Simon> tool, even if the output is not ideal, and then if there's something
> > Simon> really annoying, one of us *might* have the motivation to go improve the
> > Simon> tool.
> >
> > I'm in favor of using a tool but my view is that it has to meet some
> > minimal standard of usefulness. I just think clang-format does not do
> > this.
>
> That's fair. But are we factoring in the amount of time spent over the years
> telling contributors "you forgot a space here", "two spaces after period"?
>
> I tend to think that is not a good use of one's time. I reviewed some output
> from applying clang-format --style=gnu on gdb's sources, and it looks generally
> fine to me.
>
> Some stuff is a bit different and some other stuff is very different. But
> personally I'm willing to see this automation go through and I'm fine
> adapting to a potentially new format, whatever that is.
>
> I might've mentioned this already, but for folks that deal with multiple projects,
> the norm is to have to deal with varying styles. So it becomes even more of a burden
> to try to remember the GNU style that mostly applies to C and not C++, even though
> the project is C++ now.
>
> In summary what I want to say is that I'd go for it. If later we want to tweak
> things, we can. This sounds like it agrees with Simon as well.
FWIW, I'd also be in favor of having a clang-format configuration available
in the GDB repo. Such tools will always have false-positives and may require
some human involvement occasionally. I think the potential benefits are appealing.
Regards,
-Baris
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2025-01-14 17:23 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
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2025-01-14 15:10 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
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2024-06-18 13:32 ` DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb Michael Matz via Gdb
2024-06-19 7:38 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-19 12:07 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2024-06-25 22:27 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-26 17:38 ` Tom Tromey
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