From: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>,
Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>, Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
Guinevere Larsen <blarsen@redhat.com>,
Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
GDB Development <gdb@sourceware.org>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org>,
zoe@fsf.org, ksiewicz@fsf.org
Subject: Re: DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 17:37:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250119163754.GR29102@gnu.wildebeest.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jzatwwl0.fsf@oldenburg3.str.redhat.com>
Hi Florian,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 11:42:19AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mark Wielaard:
>
> > I kind of agree with Eli. The current contribution policy is pretty
> > clear. But people seem to be constantly confused about the exact
> > "rules" of using a DCO and Copyright "ownership".
> >
> > Specifically what it means for company disclaimers. With the current
> > process it is clear the FSF will take care of that. With a DCO it
> > suddenly becomes the responsibility of the individual employees to make
> > sure the company agrees to them submitting to the project.
>
> But having a copyright assignment with the FSF does not change that at
> all: an individual authorized by an organization to submit contributions
> in principle still needs to determine if any particular change can be
> contributed according to company rules.
Yes, in theory the situation is the same. But in the first case there
is an explicit question, while in the second it is implicit. While I
think it is fine for the community to rely on either the explicit or
implicit company disclaimer provided it seems more honest to be
explicit about it. Once the contribution is made the community will
rely on the certification made and the company cannot back out
anymore. It feels bad "tricking" companies into submissions. So imho
it would be good to make that explicitly clear in the explanation,
examples or text of the DCO and/or to have an explicit company
disclaimer on file like the Samba project does [*].
Cheers,
Mark
[*] https://www.samba.org/samba/devel/copyright-policy.html
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2024-06-17 16:07 ` Jan Beulich via Gdb
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2024-06-17 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-17 18:18 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2024-06-17 18:24 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2024-06-17 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-17 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-17 19:48 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2024-06-18 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-27 17:48 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Gdb
2024-06-27 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-29 3:27 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Gdb
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2024-06-18 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-28 0:43 ` NightStrike via Gdb
2024-06-28 6:08 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2024-06-21 13:20 ` Nick Clifton via Gdb
2024-06-23 22:06 ` Tom Tromey
2024-12-02 8:56 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-13 17:14 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb
2025-01-13 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-17 10:37 ` Florian Weimer via Gdb
2025-01-17 10:44 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-17 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-21 19:10 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2025-01-13 17:42 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:17 ` automated coding style tool (was: RE: DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb) Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:11 ` automated coding style tool Tom Tromey
2025-01-14 17:14 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:23 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 23:04 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-15 6:03 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-18 18:39 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-22 22:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-15 10:20 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-15 12:24 ` Aktemur, Tankut Baris via Gdb
2025-01-17 13:42 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb
2025-01-17 15:13 ` Joel Brobecker via Gdb
2025-01-17 15:55 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-17 17:36 ` Phi via Gdb
2025-01-17 19:27 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-18 18:56 ` Tom Tromey
2025-01-20 11:30 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 17:15 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 9:49 ` DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:10 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:28 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 15:47 ` Simon Marchi via Gdb
2025-01-14 16:33 ` Luis Machado via Gdb
2025-01-14 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-15 11:49 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-14 16:46 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb
2025-01-15 11:25 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-15 6:20 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-15 11:05 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-14 15:28 ` Mark Wielaard
2025-01-17 10:42 ` Florian Weimer via Gdb
2025-01-17 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2025-01-19 16:37 ` Mark Wielaard [this message]
2025-01-27 15:55 ` DCO Bradley M. Kuhn via Gdb
2025-01-27 16:36 ` DCO Krzysztof Siewicz via Gdb
2025-01-27 17:22 ` DCO Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2025-01-31 19:36 ` DCO Mark Wielaard
2024-06-18 13:32 ` DCO: Was: Re: Contributing to gdb Michael Matz via Gdb
2024-06-19 7:38 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-19 12:07 ` Guinevere Larsen via Gdb
2024-06-25 22:27 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
2024-06-26 17:38 ` Tom Tromey
2024-06-28 7:23 ` shaunak saha via Gdb
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