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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@codesourcery.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU>
Cc: Ben Elliston <bje@wasabisystems.com>,
	 gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com,
	 gdb@sources.redhat.com,  rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: flag day for Solaris portions of config.{guess,sub}
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87znegqb31.fsf@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871xrs5b9j.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "28 Nov 2003 15:22:32 -0800")

Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU> writes:

> "Zack Weinberg" <zack@codesourcery.com> writes:
>
>> THE OUTPUT OF CONFIG.GUESS MUST NOT EVER CHANGE.
>> EVEN IF IT IS WRONG.
>
> It isn't reasonable to insist on this as an absolute policy.  If this
> policy were strictly adhered to, most of the changes to config.guess
> would be disallowed, as config.guess typically outputs something wrong
> on unusual hosts.

Possibly I should have phrased it differently.  Referring only to
config.guess gives a misleading impression.  This isn't about bugs in
config.guess/config.sub (which I limit to "conflates two different
systems" and "prints something that doesn't have the form of a
canonical system name").  This is about canonical system names, which
must be stable even if the stable name isn't ideal.

Once a canonical name has been chosen for a given operating system,
that canonical name must not ever change.

Once a pattern of canonical names has been chosen for a given family
of operating systems, that pattern must not ever change.

Do otherwise and you ruin the utility of canonical system names; we
might as well all hand-parse uname -a output.

zw


  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-29  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-20  9:31 Ben Elliston
2003-11-20 11:34 ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 14:12 ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 18:57   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 19:14     ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 19:46       ` Albert Chin-A-Young
2003-11-20 21:02       ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 21:19         ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-21  0:33           ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-21  0:44             ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-22 21:28             ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-23 22:13               ` Branko Čibej
2003-11-24  6:33                 ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24  7:03                   ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24  9:41                     ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24 10:01                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24 20:46                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-25  7:46                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-25 21:55                             ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-26  5:25                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-26  5:34                               ` Ben Elliston
2003-11-26 22:59                                 ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-25  4:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-26  2:03                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-20 21:05     ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 21:15       ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 22:27         ` Phil Edwards
2003-11-21 21:39 ` tm_gccmail
2003-11-21 21:45   ` Joe Buck
2003-11-27 10:50 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-28 23:22   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-29  0:25     ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2003-12-01 20:50       ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-01 21:29         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 21:29           ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-02 21:40             ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 22:08               ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-03 17:17               ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-03 17:22                 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-03 17:26                   ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04  7:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04  8:00                     ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-05 17:26                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-05 17:53                         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 18:44                           ` Joe Buck
2003-12-06 11:31                             ` Nix
2003-12-07 23:04                         ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-04 10:11                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 10:49                       ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 21:37                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-04 21:53                           ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:00                           ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04 23:04                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-04 23:15                             ` Joe Buck
2003-12-04 23:27                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:38                                 ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 23:41                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 11:44                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06  5:20                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-06 20:37                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06 21:16                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07  9:15                                             ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-07  9:45                                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07 19:20                                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05  4:50                                   ` Russ Allbery
2003-12-05 11:46                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-08 13:25                             ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 22:35                               ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-08 23:44                                 ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 23:51                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-10  0:03                                   ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-12  5:24                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-12  5:38                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-12 21:26                                     ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-05 23:20                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04 14:16                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-12-02 22:47 Wolfgang Bangerth

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