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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU>
To: Rainer Orth <ro@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de>
Cc: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>,
	Ben Elliston <bje@wasabisystems.com>,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zack@codesourcery.com>,
	rms@gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: flag day for Solaris portions of config.{guess,sub}
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:03:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878yll1qv7.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16341.3267.380410.190238@xayide.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>

Rainer Orth <ro@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> writes:

> this is all moot now since Ben already declared that there will be
> no change due to the massive impact compared to minimal benefit.

Ben didn't say that there would be no change.  He merely rejected my
original proposal on the grounds of backwards compatibility.  Ben
hasn't commented on my revised proposal, which addressed his objection
by maintaining backward compatibility on all current platforms.

> Why can't you seem to understand the value of backwards compatibility?

I understand it quite well.  I also understand the value of using
correct version numbers instead of incorrect ones.  There are
competing advantages here.  Backwards compatibility does not trump all
other issues.  Otherwise programs like GCC would never withdraw any
features, which obviously is not the case.

> following vendor marketing ideas creates a maintenance nightmare

Yes, and that is why the proposed change improves on the existing
config.guess, by avoiding vendor marketing terms like "Solaris" in
future (unreleased) operating systems.

> will your next crusade be to change alpha*-dec-osf*

No; that OS is dying, and isn't worth the effort.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-10  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-20  9:31 Ben Elliston
2003-11-20 11:34 ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 14:12 ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 18:57   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 19:14     ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 19:46       ` Albert Chin-A-Young
2003-11-20 21:02       ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 21:19         ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-21  0:33           ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-21  0:44             ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-22 21:28             ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-23 22:13               ` Branko Čibej
2003-11-24  6:33                 ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24  7:03                   ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24  9:41                     ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24 10:01                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24 20:46                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-25  7:46                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-25 21:55                             ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-26  5:25                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-26  5:34                               ` Ben Elliston
2003-11-26 22:59                                 ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-25  4:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-26  2:03                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-20 21:05     ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 21:15       ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 22:27         ` Phil Edwards
2003-11-21 21:39 ` tm_gccmail
2003-11-21 21:45   ` Joe Buck
2003-11-27 10:50 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-28 23:22   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-29  0:25     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-01 20:50       ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-01 21:29         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 21:29           ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-02 21:40             ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 22:08               ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-03 17:17               ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-03 17:22                 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-03 17:26                   ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04  7:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04  8:00                     ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-05 17:26                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-05 17:53                         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 18:44                           ` Joe Buck
2003-12-06 11:31                             ` Nix
2003-12-07 23:04                         ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-04 10:11                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 10:49                       ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 21:37                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-04 21:53                           ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:00                           ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04 23:04                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-04 23:15                             ` Joe Buck
2003-12-04 23:27                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:38                                 ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 23:41                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 11:44                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06  5:20                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-06 20:37                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06 21:16                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07  9:15                                             ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-07  9:45                                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07 19:20                                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05  4:50                                   ` Russ Allbery
2003-12-05 11:46                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-08 13:25                             ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 22:35                               ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-08 23:44                                 ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 23:51                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-10  0:03                                   ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2003-12-12  5:24                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-12  5:38                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-12 21:26                                     ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-05 23:20                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04 14:16                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-12-02 22:47 Wolfgang Bangerth

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