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From: Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com>
To: Michael Elizabeth Chastain <mec@shout.net>
Cc: ac131313@redhat.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch/rfc] Remove all setup_xfail's from testsuite/gdb.mi/
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 14:20:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E26BF96.2030607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200301151744.h0FHi6O27664@duracef.shout.net>


Michael Elizabeth Chastain wrote:
> 
> I agree with Fernando that it's okay to tie every XFAIL to a gdb PR
> and turn it into a KFAIL (at least, I think he is saying that).
> 

Right.

> Let's take a specific case.  gdb.base/constvars.exp has a lot of
> tests such as "const char * foo ; ptype foo".  With gcc 2.95.3/stabs+,
> the "ptype" prints "char * foo".  This happens because gcc 2.95.3/stabs+
> does not put any const information in the stabs.  This is probably never
> going to get fixed in the gcc 2 series.
> 

That is a true XFAIL, but it should be conditional to version 2 compilers and 
stabs, so that it does not show as XPASS everywhere else.


> Now the real problem comes to light.  'K' and 'X' are really orthogonal.
> 'K' means that we know about the problem, and 'X' means that it is
> a problem in an external tool, and these two things are separate.
> But we made them an either/or, so we have to choose.
> 
> I'd rather have this become a KFAIL with reference to a gdb PR.  Then
> the gdb PR can say that this incorrect behavior happens, but it's not
> gdb's fault.  The gdb PR should refer to a gcc PR or other external PR.
> And then we can't close the gdb PR until gcc revives gcc 2.X development
> or gdb drop supports for gcc 2.X.
> 
> We could add another PR state for these kind of PR's, or we could
> just use the 'suspended' state.
> 

The Dejagnu community will kill me if I come out with yet another type of 
failure ;-)  The problem is that the international standard don't even recognize 
these extensions we've added (XFAIL and KFAIL), although I think they are really 
important and your weekely reports prove that.

>>From the gdb user's point of view, a bug is a bug.  A gdb user can do
> the same thing as the test suite and then file a PR: 'gdb fails to
> print 'const' for const types'.
> 

Yes, but we have little control over what we call XFAIL cases.  But you have a 
good point that they deserve some user documentation as much as the KFAILs do.

Please see my reply to Daniel's message.



-- 
Fernando Nasser
Red Hat - Toronto                       E-Mail:  fnasser@redhat.com
2323 Yonge Street, Suite #300
Toronto, Ontario   M4P 2C9


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-16 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-15 17:44 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-15 17:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-16 14:27   ` Fernando Nasser
2003-01-16 14:30     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-16 14:46       ` Fernando Nasser
2003-01-16 14:52         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-16 15:46     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-16 14:20 ` Fernando Nasser [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-17 19:32 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-17 19:28 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-17 19:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-17 19:00 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-17 19:16 ` David Carlton
2003-01-17 19:20   ` David Carlton
2003-01-17 19:30     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-17 19:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-16 20:06 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-16 20:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-17 14:12   ` Fernando Nasser
2003-01-17 16:05     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-17 14:26 ` Fernando Nasser
2003-01-16 17:12 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-01-16 17:07 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2002-10-24 11:41 Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 12:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-10-24 12:29   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 12:58     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-10-24 14:22       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 14:26         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-10-24 14:39           ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 16:31             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 16:36               ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 14:50           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 14:58             ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 15:31               ` Ben Elliston
2002-10-24 16:44               ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 17:35                 ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 18:25                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 14:18 ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 14:32   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 14:39 ` David Carlton
2002-10-24 14:57   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-10-24 15:00     ` Michael Snyder
2002-10-24 15:26     ` David Carlton
2002-10-24 15:36       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-15 15:55 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-15 17:25   ` Fernando Nasser
2003-01-16 16:53     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-16 17:05       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-01-16 19:03         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-01-16 19:55           ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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