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From: Greg Law <glaw@undo-software.com>
To: Jakob Engblom <jakob@virtutech.com>
Cc: 'Michael Snyder' <msnyder@vmware.com>,
	gdb@sourceware.org,   'Julian Smith' <jsmith@undo-software.com>
Subject: Re: Simics & reverse execution
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA64929.1040305@undo-software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <017001ca3054$f2d26020$d8772060$@com>

Jakob Engblom wrote:
> [...]
 >
> The problem is that different backends have different natural semantics here. 
> 
> A simulator has a natural semantic of synchronous stop across all processors,
> devices, and everything else going on.  A hardware across JTAG is far more
> likely to stop just a few cores and keep the rest running.  Hardware with
> recording: ????
> 
> That's why an abstract bookmark concept is so appealing: it can hide anything in
> the backend, and let it worry about setting up times on multiple processors,
> multiple machines, or hardware recorders.

Ok, yes, I see what you're getting at here: bookmarks might be more
easily implemented in some targets than some global linear notion of
time.

> 
>> Again, you could go a lot further than I'm proposing right now.  But
>> that's not to say you need to for this stuff be useful.
> 
> Yes, for us, a 64-bit integer count of time would be quite useful as a general
> tool. 

Cool - so is the general agreement that a scalar notion of time is a
useful thing to add, even if it's not supported in all reversible
targets?  (And bookmarks is an (at least) equally useful notion.)

Greg
-- 
Greg Law, Undo Software                       http://undo-software.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-17  7:42 gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17  7:58 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-17 11:33   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:50   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:55     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:31       ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:52         ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-20 17:10           ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19  7:34         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-17 20:08         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 22:44           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19  8:58             ` Simics & reverse execution Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 12:29               ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-19 20:03                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 20:29                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19 20:44                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-19 21:09                     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-20  6:54                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 15:03                         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-27  4:44               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-27  8:17                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-28 11:04                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-28 15:17                 ` Greg Law
2009-08-31 13:22                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-31 16:34                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-01  6:37                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-01 13:49                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-03 19:16                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-04 12:44                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  7:16                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07  8:13                                 ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  8:24                                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07 12:06                                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-08  7:21                                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 12:08                                         ` Greg Law [this message]
2009-09-08 13:02                                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 19:11                                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-14  8:26                                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-17  3:07                                                 ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24       ` gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 15:28         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19 16:37           ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-20 13:10             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 14:50               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-20 20:27               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-20  6:53           ` Hui Zhu

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