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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Jakob Engblom <jakob@virtutech.com>
Cc: "gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A89B7E4.9010804@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00b801ca1f74$e5610a90$b0231fb0$@com>

Jakob Engblom wrote:
>> Hello Jakob -- welcome back!
>>
>> Pedro's reply below includes answers to most of your questions.
>> This is some background.
>>
>> It is normal for those of us doing development on new or
>> unusual platforms to need to define a "board description file",
>> to let Dejagnu know how to do certain things with our target.
>> See "site.exp" in Pedro's email.
> 
> Thanks! Obviously, we had no idea at all of this. 
> 
> However, we are not really developing a new platform here. We are just doing MI
> comamnds for reverse that should work on any reversible platform.  Therefore, it
> would be nice to generalize reverse to be independent of the particular
> implementation. 
> 
> But I get the sense here that process record is a bit too special or convoluted
> to serve as a general reversible platform. It seems that the recording process
> is shining through, in some way. Is that right?

The recording process is visible, yes -- process record is
implemented entirely within gdb, so the command to start making
a recording is given from within gdb.

I think with your setup, you can make the recording first,
before you ever start gdb, am I right?

I don't know whether you also have an option to start making
the recording after you start debugging?  If so, you might want
to test it in the same context?

>> For the reverse debugging tests, I used this guard variable
>> to make sure the tests would only run on targets that were
>> explicitly tagged as being reverse-capable:
>>
>>      if ![target_info exists gdb,can_reverse] {
>>          return
>>      }
> 
> That makes sense.  So here we need a board file to say that our native
> record/replay is reversible. 
> 
>> So you will want to have this in your board description file:
>>
>>      set_board_info gdb,can_reverse 1
>>
>> Secondly, there are a few commands that are specific to
>> "process record", so I guarded them with this variable:
>>  
>>      if [target_info exists gdb,use_precord] {
>>          # Activate process record/replay
>>          gdb_test "record" "" "Turn on process record"
>>      }
> 
> Do any of these need MI equivalents...
> 
>> You won't want to use those commands, so you will
>> not define that variable in your board description.
> 
> Will you do MI for them then? :)
> 
>> If there are any commands that are unique to your
>> implementation, you can define your own guard variable
>> and add them to the tests.
> 
> There should not be. We want Simics to be like any other reversible target, and
> the MI command set we are trying to do tests for should as I say be general to
> any reversible target. 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> /jakob
> 
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> 
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> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-17 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-17  7:42 Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17  7:58 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-17 11:33   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:50   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:55     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:31       ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:52         ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-20 17:10           ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19  7:34         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-17 20:08         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 22:44           ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2009-08-19  7:24             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19  8:58             ` Simics & reverse execution Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 12:29               ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-19 20:03                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 20:29                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19 20:44                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-19 21:09                     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-20  6:54                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 15:03                         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-27  4:44               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-27  8:17                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-28 11:04                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-28 15:17                 ` Greg Law
2009-08-31 13:22                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-31 16:34                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-01  6:37                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-01 13:49                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-03 19:16                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-04 12:44                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  7:16                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07  8:13                                 ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  8:24                                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07 12:06                                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-08  7:21                                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 12:08                                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-08 13:02                                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 19:11                                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-14  8:26                                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-17  3:07                                                 ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24       ` gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 15:28         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19 16:37           ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-20 13:10             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 14:50               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-20 20:27               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-20  6:53           ` Hui Zhu

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