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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Jakob Engblom <jakob@virtutech.com>
Cc: "gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Simics & reverse execution
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A95E319.6020300@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <027701ca209f$64c71ce0$2e5556a0$@com>

Jakob Engblom wrote:

> Doing reverse breakpoints basically involves successively jumping back and
> executing forward until breakpoints trigger. I think process record does
> something very similar, based on the recording, right?

No, that's one major difference with process-record.
It doesn't use any state snapshots or checkpoints, its data contains
only change sets for single instructions.  So it executes backward
one instruction at a time, in reverse sequence.

Of course, to the user, and to the core of gdb, the difference
is invisible, except possibly for speed.

[...]
> What this means for Simics and gdb remote is that it would be nice to be able to
> deal with points in time: in Simics, you are moving the target system clock
> around in time arbitrarily.  In the Simics reverse interface, you can go to a
> certain point in time, and also set execution bookmarks. 

Those are both very cool ideas, and I would like to add them,
both to the remote protocol and to process remote.

I think we just need to come up with a sufficiently arbitrary
way to represent both a "point in time" and a "bookmark", so
that they can be passed back and forth between gdb and the
remote target without gdb needing to know what they actually
represent (eg. a timestamp or a branch count).  Only the target
needs to know how to interpret them.

Maybe an 8 byte integer would be sufficient?  What do you think?

So I'm thinking something like:
1) user to gdb: "I want to place a bookmark here (now)".
2) gdb to target: "Give me a marker that I can later use to mean "here 
(now)".
3) target to gdb: "Ok, here, use this instruction count."
4) (later): user to gdb: "I want to return to this bookmark".
5) gdb to target: "Please return to this marker that you gave me earlier".



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-27  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-17  7:42 gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17  7:58 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-17 11:33   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:50   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:55     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:31       ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:52         ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-20 17:10           ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19  7:34         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-17 20:08         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 22:44           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19  8:58             ` Simics & reverse execution Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 12:29               ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-19 20:03                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 20:29                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19 20:44                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-19 21:09                     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-20  6:54                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 15:03                         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-27  4:44               ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2009-08-27  8:17                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-28 11:04                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-28 15:17                 ` Greg Law
2009-08-31 13:22                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-31 16:34                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-01  6:37                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-01 13:49                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-03 19:16                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-04 12:44                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  7:16                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07  8:13                                 ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  8:24                                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07 12:06                                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-08  7:21                                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 12:08                                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-08 13:02                                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 19:11                                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-14  8:26                                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-17  3:07                                                 ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24       ` gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 15:28         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19 16:37           ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-20 13:10             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 14:50               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-20 20:27               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-20  6:53           ` Hui Zhu

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