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From: "Jakob Engblom" <jakob@virtutech.com>
To: "'Greg Law'" <greg@greglaw.net>,
		"'Michael Snyder'" <msnyder@vmware.com>
Cc: <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: Simics & reverse execution
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <010b01ca2a3c$7766ca70$66345f50$@com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A97B9C9.8070501@greglaw.net>

> Anyway, 8-bytes is not a sufficiently general representation of time for
> UndoDB. The trouble is, we don't keep a linear cycle count or such like.
>   We could in theory, but it would slow us down.  So instead we
> represent time as a structure.

What exactly is represented here? Some kind of tree of execution?

If it is a linear execution, couldn't you just map arbitrary points in time to
integers?

Also, note that as Michael says, the idea here is to have an ID number that
passes back and forth between gdb and the target, which is then resolved at the
target. 
 
> So, I think it would be better if the abstract time representation could
> be an opaque "bag of bits" of arbitrary size.
> 
> We'd be happy to contribute some patches along these lines, although I
> don't think we'd be able to do anything in time for the proposed gdb 7
> branch.
> 
> What do people think?

I think it might be unnecessary: unless you need more than 2^64 distinct
bookmarks/points in time tracked, can't you do a local map in your backend
between gdb logical bookmark IDs and the internal time representation?

Note in that in our case, the "time" is not really that simple... when you
factor in multithreaded simulation of multiboard targets and temporal
decoupling, Simics typically has ten different "points in time" active at the
same time... but for reveexec, we untangle this for the benefit of the user. 

/jakob


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-17  7:42 gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17  7:58 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-17 11:33   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:50   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 11:55     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:31       ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-17 15:52         ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-20 17:10           ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19  7:34         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-17 20:08         ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-17 22:44           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19  8:58             ` Simics & reverse execution Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 12:29               ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-19 20:03                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 20:29                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19 20:44                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-19 21:09                     ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-20  6:54                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 15:03                         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-27  4:44               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-27  8:17                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-28 11:04                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-28 15:17                 ` Greg Law
2009-08-31 13:22                   ` Jakob Engblom [this message]
2009-08-31 16:34                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-01  6:37                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-01 13:49                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-03 19:16                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-04 12:44                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  7:16                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07  8:13                                 ` Greg Law
2009-09-07  8:24                                   ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-07 12:06                                     ` Greg Law
2009-09-08  7:21                                       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 12:08                                         ` Greg Law
2009-09-08 13:02                                           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-08 19:11                                             ` Greg Law
2009-09-14  8:26                                               ` Jakob Engblom
2009-09-17  3:07                                                 ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-19  7:24       ` gdb reverse execution: how to actually run tests for it? Jakob Engblom
2009-08-19 15:28         ` Pedro Alves
2009-08-19 16:37           ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-20 13:10             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-08-20 14:50               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-08-20 20:27               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-20  6:53           ` Hui Zhu

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