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From: Thomas Dineen via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Nominations for Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:11:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4346fa6f-d796-4e9d-bdc3-225892a36629@ix.netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ldccifk0.fsf@gnu.org>

Polite words do not seem to work! So here it is:

This reflector is exclusively for the development of GDB Open source 
Software!!!

Take your AI garbage to the appropriate forum.



On 6/17/2026 10:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii via Gdb wrote:
>> Cc: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
>>   Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>, glibc
>>   developers <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, gdb developers <gdb@sourceware.org>
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:57 -0300
>> From: Alexandre Oliva via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
>>
>> Now, if it was another mailing list member forwarding spam that
>> advertised a 30-days-gratis bait for a service entirely misaligned with
>> the purposes of GNU in general and of GNU libc specifically, to the
>> point of opposing those purposes, would you still be favorable to it?
> That's a significant exaggeration, to put it mildly.  I invite you
> (and everyone else who wants to make up their minds independently) to
> re-read the original message posted by David.  I find no advertisement
> there, let alone spam.
>
> Here's that message again:
>
>    Anthropic is generously offering 6 months of Claude Max 20x to Free
>    and Open Source Software projects to support the FOSS
>    ecosystem. These tools can be incredibly helpful with reviewing
>    upstream code, evaluating the conformance of a particular interface
>    to a standard, or just for your own learning and exploring the
>    implementation of the project or subsystem.
>
>    If you are an established, active contributor to the GNU Toolchain
>    and are interested in having access to Claude Max 20x under
>    Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program, please respond to this
>    email thread with a short description of how you would utilize the
>    access and the potential impact on the GNU Toolchain.  The program's
>    slots are limited and Carlos O'Donell and I plan to review the
>    proposals. Please keep in mind that these are individual grants from
>    Anthropic to you personally. If you are approved you’ll get an email
>    from Anthropic with further instructions.
>
>    While the current GNU Project policy is not to accept LLM-generated
>    content in the projects, that still leaves other uses like bug
>    triage, patch review, and research as ways to use these tools.
>
> This basically says that if someone wants to use the 6-month offer to
> work on GNU tools, they should describe their plans and apply for a
> slot in using the tools.  That's it.  It even explicitly says in a
> P.S. that "This is not an endorsement of Anthropic, Claude or LLMs".
>
> Please be fair and don't accuse people who post here in something they
> didn't say.  You don't have to agree, and you don't need to volunteer
> to use Anthropic's proposal, but let's have minimally-civil
> discussions here, okay?  Even your selection of
> intentionally-denigrating words ("spam", "losers", etc.) is highly
> inappropriate in civilized discussions, given what the original
> message actually said.
>
>> Will your stance change when bots subscribe to these lists, and then
>> start posting advertisement targeted at our developers but otherwise
>> bearing no relationship with the project?  Will you then call for such
>> spam to be blocked, or will we all have to endure it because some day
>> you decreed that it was ok?
> Not relevant.  Blocking spam and bots, regardless of the content of
> those messages, is the job of the list moderators and they generally
> do their job just fine so far.
>
>>> Where I draw the line, and where it can be drawn is in what we write down
>>> in our documentation, likewise in our process.
>> Our mailing lists are part of the project as well, and people who take
>> part in the project or even lead it are expected to behave in line with
>> the project, rather than against it, at the very least when
>> participating in project fora and activities.
>>
>> Advertising services antagonic to and destructive of user freedom is
>> really way out of line.
> Again, there was no advertising.  This is uncalled-for.  Please find
> more polite words to express your disagreement (if you must: after
> all, that was a call for volunteers, and you don't have to volunteer
> nor respond if you don't like the proposal).
>
> More generally, I'm disappointed by the hostility and the general
> style some people allow themselves to use in this discussion.  We
> don't deserve to call ourselves a community that promotes a better
> society if we cannot talk between ourselves in a kinder manner.  Shame
> on us!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12 19:18 Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 19:29 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:18   ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:21     ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:07   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:11     ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 11:39       ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-15 21:11         ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 11:03           ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-16 13:53             ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-17 16:28               ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18  5:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18  6:59                   ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18  7:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 13:43                       ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:44                         ` Jeffrey Walton via Gdb
2026-06-18 17:11                   ` Thomas Dineen via Gdb [this message]
2026-06-19 22:21                     ` Andy Wang via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:03             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-20  0:09           ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 17:25       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-12 23:46     ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-13  1:15       ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:17       ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:35         ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 23:10           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:50             ` Xi Ruoyao via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:59               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 17:49                 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-22 18:35                   ` Gokhan via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:22             ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:44               ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:12 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:19   ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:08     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-16 16:36       ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 18:01         ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-13  0:19 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb

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