From: Thomas Dineen via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Nominations for Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:11:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4346fa6f-d796-4e9d-bdc3-225892a36629@ix.netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ldccifk0.fsf@gnu.org>
Polite words do not seem to work! So here it is:
This reflector is exclusively for the development of GDB Open source
Software!!!
Take your AI garbage to the appropriate forum.
On 6/17/2026 10:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii via Gdb wrote:
>> Cc: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
>> Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>, glibc
>> developers <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, gdb developers <gdb@sourceware.org>
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:57 -0300
>> From: Alexandre Oliva via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
>>
>> Now, if it was another mailing list member forwarding spam that
>> advertised a 30-days-gratis bait for a service entirely misaligned with
>> the purposes of GNU in general and of GNU libc specifically, to the
>> point of opposing those purposes, would you still be favorable to it?
> That's a significant exaggeration, to put it mildly. I invite you
> (and everyone else who wants to make up their minds independently) to
> re-read the original message posted by David. I find no advertisement
> there, let alone spam.
>
> Here's that message again:
>
> Anthropic is generously offering 6 months of Claude Max 20x to Free
> and Open Source Software projects to support the FOSS
> ecosystem. These tools can be incredibly helpful with reviewing
> upstream code, evaluating the conformance of a particular interface
> to a standard, or just for your own learning and exploring the
> implementation of the project or subsystem.
>
> If you are an established, active contributor to the GNU Toolchain
> and are interested in having access to Claude Max 20x under
> Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program, please respond to this
> email thread with a short description of how you would utilize the
> access and the potential impact on the GNU Toolchain. The program's
> slots are limited and Carlos O'Donell and I plan to review the
> proposals. Please keep in mind that these are individual grants from
> Anthropic to you personally. If you are approved you’ll get an email
> from Anthropic with further instructions.
>
> While the current GNU Project policy is not to accept LLM-generated
> content in the projects, that still leaves other uses like bug
> triage, patch review, and research as ways to use these tools.
>
> This basically says that if someone wants to use the 6-month offer to
> work on GNU tools, they should describe their plans and apply for a
> slot in using the tools. That's it. It even explicitly says in a
> P.S. that "This is not an endorsement of Anthropic, Claude or LLMs".
>
> Please be fair and don't accuse people who post here in something they
> didn't say. You don't have to agree, and you don't need to volunteer
> to use Anthropic's proposal, but let's have minimally-civil
> discussions here, okay? Even your selection of
> intentionally-denigrating words ("spam", "losers", etc.) is highly
> inappropriate in civilized discussions, given what the original
> message actually said.
>
>> Will your stance change when bots subscribe to these lists, and then
>> start posting advertisement targeted at our developers but otherwise
>> bearing no relationship with the project? Will you then call for such
>> spam to be blocked, or will we all have to endure it because some day
>> you decreed that it was ok?
> Not relevant. Blocking spam and bots, regardless of the content of
> those messages, is the job of the list moderators and they generally
> do their job just fine so far.
>
>>> Where I draw the line, and where it can be drawn is in what we write down
>>> in our documentation, likewise in our process.
>> Our mailing lists are part of the project as well, and people who take
>> part in the project or even lead it are expected to behave in line with
>> the project, rather than against it, at the very least when
>> participating in project fora and activities.
>>
>> Advertising services antagonic to and destructive of user freedom is
>> really way out of line.
> Again, there was no advertising. This is uncalled-for. Please find
> more polite words to express your disagreement (if you must: after
> all, that was a call for volunteers, and you don't have to volunteer
> nor respond if you don't like the proposal).
>
> More generally, I'm disappointed by the hostility and the general
> style some people allow themselves to use in this discussion. We
> don't deserve to call ourselves a community that promotes a better
> society if we cannot talk between ourselves in a kinder manner. Shame
> on us!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-12 19:18 Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 19:29 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:18 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:21 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:07 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:11 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 11:39 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-15 21:11 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 11:03 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-16 13:53 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-17 16:28 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 5:27 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 6:59 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 13:43 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:44 ` Jeffrey Walton via Gdb
2026-06-18 17:11 ` Thomas Dineen via Gdb [this message]
2026-06-19 22:21 ` Andy Wang via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:03 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-20 0:09 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 17:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-12 23:46 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-13 1:15 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:17 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:35 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 23:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:50 ` Xi Ruoyao via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 17:49 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-22 18:35 ` Gokhan via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:22 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:44 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:12 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:19 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:08 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-16 16:36 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 18:01 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-13 0:19 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
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