From: Eli Zaretskii via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>
Cc: carlos@redhat.com, mark@klomp.org, pinskia@gmail.com,
adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Nominations for Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:41:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <865x3gi9de.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <oreci4z644.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org> (message from Alexandre Oliva on Thu, 18 Jun 2026 03:59:23 -0300)
> From: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>
> Cc: carlos@redhat.com, mark@klomp.org, pinskia@gmail.com,
> adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
> gdb@sourceware.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 03:59:23 -0300
>
> On Jun 18, 2026, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> >> Cc: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
> >> Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>, glibc
> >> developers <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, gdb developers <gdb@sourceware.org>
> >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:57 -0300
> >> From: Alexandre Oliva via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
> >>
> >> Now, if it was another mailing list member forwarding spam that
> >> advertised a 30-days-gratis bait for a service entirely misaligned with
> >> the purposes of GNU in general and of GNU libc specifically, to the
> >> point of opposing those purposes, would you still be favorable to it?
>
> > That's a significant exaggeration
>
> It's not.
>
> The offer is promotional, for a short time, to attract new users.
That's plausibly Anthropic's motivation, but you accused David in
advertising, not Anthropic. I don't care about what you say about
Anthropic, but I do care what you say about David and other members of
our community here.
> Indeed, it fits the pattern that companies use with influencers
> nowadays, offering them gratis access to a product for them to publish
> their use of the product/service and thereby promote the product/service
> to an even broader public. Companies usually pay for that.
David is not a company, nor is he (AFAIK) in any way related to
Anthropic.
> Now, maybe you're not disputing that it was advertisement.
>
> Maybe you're disputing that it's misaligned with GNU.
I'm disputing your uncalled-for attack on David, and similar attacks
by others in this discussion.
> > Not relevant. Blocking spam and bots, regardless of the content of
> > those messages, is the job of the list moderators and they generally
> > do their job just fine so far.
>
> They seem to have missed the post that started this thread
No, because it was a legitimate post that doesn't qualify as spam or
anything near it. You may think otherwise, but you are very wrong.
Your demand to censor such messages is also in stark contrast the
democratic traditions of GNU.
> > if we cannot talk between ourselves in a kinder manner
>
> Being kind encompasses not extending dangerous and harmful offers onto
> your colleagues. Smoke your crack if you must, but please don't try to
> "help" others get hooked through "generous" offers in here. It's not
> kind. It's not cool. It's detrimental. It's divisive. The offer is
> an attack on the freedoms we stand for. Why are we even debating it?
Because you are viciously attacking one of us (and now also myself),
for no good reason, using a language that should not be heard here.
Please stop! It is completely inappropriate and unbecoming!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 7:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-12 19:18 Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 19:29 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:18 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:21 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:07 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:11 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 11:39 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-15 21:11 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 11:03 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-16 13:53 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-17 16:28 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 5:27 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 6:59 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb [this message]
2026-06-18 13:43 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:44 ` Jeffrey Walton via Gdb
2026-06-18 17:11 ` Thomas Dineen via Gdb
2026-06-19 22:21 ` Andy Wang via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:03 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-20 0:09 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 17:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-12 23:46 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-13 1:15 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:17 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:35 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 23:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:50 ` Xi Ruoyao via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 17:49 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-22 18:35 ` Gokhan via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:22 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:44 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:12 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:19 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:08 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-16 16:36 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 18:01 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-13 0:19 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
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