From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
Gokhan <kadirgokhann@gmail.com>
Cc: Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>,
glibc developers <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
gdb developers <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Nominations for Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 20:10:53 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <12079c45-5246-49a2-9c95-e581cbbc20b5@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+=Sn1kaeg=y+dSb-yF1kk9N3d-c-2iP23nra+zp5R_OUm4C_A@mail.gmail.com>
On 15/06/26 18:35, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 2:17 PM Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>> If anything in the face of LLMs I want to double down on actively
>> mentoring more developers to FOSS development.
>
> When a newcoming came in asking for things to do last month, what was
> given is most likely overwheling for them and never responded again.
> https://inbox.sourceware.org/libc-alpha/CAFPohwASPGQHreidwNTR3Eo81f_TfsajkF0sH2qZFKqSUQ47mg@mail.gmail.com/
Sorry if I was too brief and potentially not welcoming; I could have spent
some time digging into potential work and writing down better ideas. So I
will take the opportunity and write them down:
1. Testing
The testing would aim to both improve libsupport (the support/ subfolder) by
consolidating internal functions (as LTP does for its testing) and add new
tests to cover missing symbols or functionality. We now have container support,
so we can extend testing for functionality that requires a more complex system
setup.
Also, check whether the tests can be improved in terms of coverage and/or time
spent. I started focusing on this area, and it culminated in a patchset to improve
test scalability [1]. One issue with this kind of work is that it requires a lot
of GNU Make knowledge, but we do have many internal examples, especially new
tests, on how to improve coverage and write better tests.
One possible subproject is to document how to properly write glibc tests using
libsupport and/or adapt the remaining one to use it. There are still around 30
tests that use the old test-skeleton.c - 12 in libio/, the rest scattered across
stdlib, rt, resolv, posix, nptl, io.
2. Benchmarking
Another possible project is to improve benchmarks (benchmark subfolder), which
is currently cumbersome, quite hard to read, and somewhat difficult to parse.
It would be really interesting to follow something like Google Benchmark [2],
which has many terminal color gimmicks, but focuses on providing proper,
meaningful information without the need for extra parsing or using the bench
scripts.
3. Documentation
Document undocumented functions in the manual. The manual/ has 55 .texi files
and a long tail of installed functions with no entry. Pick a small family (e.g.
some wcs*, mkostemp variants, newer C23 additions), write the texinfo. This
also has zero ABI risk, and is easy to review.
4. Compiler-warning / new-GCC cleanups
Build with a newer GCC or stricter flags and fix the warnings in one subdirectory.
Bounded, and a good way to learn the -Werror discipline glibc enforces.
Another possibility is to check which backports are required to enable the old
release branch to build cleanly with newer GCC versions.
5. Add missing header annotations
Check new gcc/clang annotations (__wur, __nonnull, __attribute_malloc__) and
apply them where clearly correct. Small but needs care — must not introduce
false-positive warnings in the test suite, which would teach the newcomer to
actually run make check.
6. Internal script cleanup
This might be a more contentious one, but I think we can reduce our build
dependencies by at least rewriting the Perl script to either awk or Python.
There are small (1 to 2 weeks' work) projects that I think are good for newcomers.
Below are some medium-sized (2-6 weeks' work) projects that require some more
internal knowledge and research:
7. C23 conformance gaps
The implementation of C23 is nearly complete, so the remaining work is mostly
conformance testing and coverage: cross-check against Joseph Myers's C23 status
tracker on libc-alpha, find the few stragglers, and write the missing conform/
tests. Good intro to the standards machinery without needing to design new ABI.
8. Resolver/getaddrinfo test coverage using support/resolv_test.h
Plenty of resolver behavior is under-tested; the framework lets a newcomer spin
up a fake in-process DNS server. Medium because the domain is fiddly, but the
tooling is already built.
And I can work on mentoring if someone is willing to work on any of this work.
>
> I even pointed out in the news letter when referering to this email
> that "this newsletter could use some easy issues of the week for glibc
> and a mentor to reach out to for it":
> https://inbox.sourceware.org/libc-alpha/CAHt=NyPLDnHzbsV8xc7TC9Us9Djg6sDMo+QqKpbg0Kgnp6MzRw@mail.gmail.com/
>
Well, I did reach out to you, but your reply made it seem like you would take
care of it yourself [3]. In any case, if you are will I can help you with
the glibc side of the weekly news.
> But nothing, not even saying let me get back to you on this. Not even
> a word. So I don't see any double down on this at all from you. In
> fact I just see inaction from you.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea
[1] https://patchwork.sourceware.org/project/glibc/list/?series=62266
[2] https://github.com/google/benchmark
[3] https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2025-September/246616.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-15 23:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-12 19:18 Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 19:29 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:18 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:21 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:07 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:11 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 11:39 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-15 21:11 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 11:03 ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-16 13:53 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-17 16:28 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 5:27 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 6:59 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 13:43 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:44 ` Jeffrey Walton via Gdb
2026-06-18 17:11 ` Thomas Dineen via Gdb
2026-06-19 22:21 ` Andy Wang via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:03 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-20 0:09 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 17:25 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-12 23:46 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-13 1:15 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:17 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:35 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 23:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb [this message]
2026-06-16 14:50 ` Xi Ruoyao via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 17:49 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-22 18:35 ` Gokhan via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:22 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:44 ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:12 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:19 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:08 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-16 16:36 ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 18:01 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-13 0:19 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
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