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From: Gokhan via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
	 Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
	Collin Funk <collin.funk1@gmail.com>,
	 glibc developers <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	gdb developers <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Nominations for Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 21:35:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFPohwBxDj6Xv5L4xxdpM10xUw0+YXj4TVXv5H4J4WExr36kwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3e58dcf-0b87-4f4b-87e6-a4db7148a614@redhat.com>

It seems that we have both been trying to find the right way to move this
forward. I have been looking for ways to contribute, while you have been
trying to identify a suitable task for me.
I reviewed the areas you previously mentioned, but it seemed that I would
need to spend a significant amount of time getting familiar with them
first. For that reason, I postponed joining for a while.
This time, however, it looks like there may be some opportunities where I
can contribute more effectively. I will review the available options and
get back to you after I have had some time to assess them.
Please give me some time to look into this properly.

Kolaylıkla
*Kadir Gökhan Sezer*


On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 8:50 PM Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 6/16/26 10:59 AM, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 16/06/26 11:50, Xi Ruoyao wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2026-06-15 at 20:10 -0300, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> >>> 6. Internal script cleanup
> >>>
> >>> This might be a more contentious one, but I think we can reduce our
> build
> >>> dependencies by at least rewriting the Perl script to either awk or
> Python.
> >>
> >> Hmm, it seems glibc can already build w/o Perl (if you don't care the
> >> info pages which need Texinfo).  I happened to figure that out after
> >> forgetting the temporary Perl and Texinfo installations before building
> >> glibc when I performed a test build of Linux From Scratch manually
> >> several days ago.
> >
> > We still install the mtrace, so to use all the glibc features one would
> > need to install perl. The scripts/test-installation.pl is already gated
> > through perl existence, but I think it is not a good design if we silent
> > disable testing due missing tools.
>
> (1) Dependencies.
>
> May we please start a new there for this?
>
> Particularly around "build", "test", and "runtime" dependencies.
>
> >>
> >> Also reducing the Perl scripts won't help too much for distros as
> >> Texinfo is still in Perl and the distros will need the info pages
> >> anyway.
> >>
> >
> > I think the main gain is for mtrace, the two other scripts
> > (test-installation.pl, summary.pl) are not essential.  The summary.pl is
> > only required for manual generation and you put texinfo already brings it
> > anyway.
> >
>
> (2) Bootstrap.
>
> May we please start a new thread for this?
>
> This is another distinct discussion which has to do with reducing
> toolchain bootstrap dependencies. I say "bootstrap" because you should
> have a way to bootstrap (to do reproducible builds, or audit a minimal
> bootstrap seed, or bringup hardware) that needs the fewest number of
> things you can manage. This can include disabling features during the
> bootstrap.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Carlos.
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-12 19:18 Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 19:29 ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:18   ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-12 21:21     ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:07   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:11     ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 11:39       ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-15 21:11         ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 11:03           ` Mark Wielaard
2026-06-16 13:53             ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-17 16:28               ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18  5:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18  6:59                   ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18  7:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 13:43                       ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii via Gdb
2026-06-18 14:44                         ` Jeffrey Walton via Gdb
2026-06-18 17:11                   ` Thomas Dineen via Gdb
2026-06-19 22:21                     ` Andy Wang via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:03             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-20  0:09           ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 17:25       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-12 23:46     ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-13  1:15       ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:17       ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:35         ` Andrew Pinski via Gdb
2026-06-15 23:10           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:50             ` Xi Ruoyao via Gdb
2026-06-16 14:59               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2026-06-16 17:49                 ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-22 18:35                   ` Gokhan via Gdb [this message]
2026-06-16 16:22             ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:44               ` Collin Funk via Gdb
2026-06-12 23:12 ` Sam James via Gdb
2026-06-15 21:19   ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-16 16:08     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2026-06-16 16:36       ` Joseph Myers via Gdb
2026-06-16 18:01         ` Carlos O'Donell via Gdb
2026-06-13  0:19 ` Alexandre Oliva via Gdb

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