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So here it is: This reflector is exclusively for the development of GDB Open source Software!!! Take your AI garbage to the appropriate forum. On 6/17/2026 10:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii via Gdb wrote: >> Cc: Mark Wielaard , Andrew Pinski , >> Adhemerval Zanella Netto , glibc >> developers , gdb developers >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 13:28:57 -0300 >> From: Alexandre Oliva via Gdb >> >> Now, if it was another mailing list member forwarding spam that >> advertised a 30-days-gratis bait for a service entirely misaligned with >> the purposes of GNU in general and of GNU libc specifically, to the >> point of opposing those purposes, would you still be favorable to it? > That's a significant exaggeration, to put it mildly. I invite you > (and everyone else who wants to make up their minds independently) to > re-read the original message posted by David. I find no advertisement > there, let alone spam. > > Here's that message again: > > Anthropic is generously offering 6 months of Claude Max 20x to Free > and Open Source Software projects to support the FOSS > ecosystem. These tools can be incredibly helpful with reviewing > upstream code, evaluating the conformance of a particular interface > to a standard, or just for your own learning and exploring the > implementation of the project or subsystem. > > If you are an established, active contributor to the GNU Toolchain > and are interested in having access to Claude Max 20x under > Anthropic’s Claude for Open Source program, please respond to this > email thread with a short description of how you would utilize the > access and the potential impact on the GNU Toolchain. The program's > slots are limited and Carlos O'Donell and I plan to review the > proposals. Please keep in mind that these are individual grants from > Anthropic to you personally. If you are approved you’ll get an email > from Anthropic with further instructions. > > While the current GNU Project policy is not to accept LLM-generated > content in the projects, that still leaves other uses like bug > triage, patch review, and research as ways to use these tools. > > This basically says that if someone wants to use the 6-month offer to > work on GNU tools, they should describe their plans and apply for a > slot in using the tools. That's it. It even explicitly says in a > P.S. that "This is not an endorsement of Anthropic, Claude or LLMs". > > Please be fair and don't accuse people who post here in something they > didn't say. You don't have to agree, and you don't need to volunteer > to use Anthropic's proposal, but let's have minimally-civil > discussions here, okay? Even your selection of > intentionally-denigrating words ("spam", "losers", etc.) is highly > inappropriate in civilized discussions, given what the original > message actually said. > >> Will your stance change when bots subscribe to these lists, and then >> start posting advertisement targeted at our developers but otherwise >> bearing no relationship with the project? Will you then call for such >> spam to be blocked, or will we all have to endure it because some day >> you decreed that it was ok? > Not relevant. Blocking spam and bots, regardless of the content of > those messages, is the job of the list moderators and they generally > do their job just fine so far. > >>> Where I draw the line, and where it can be drawn is in what we write down >>> in our documentation, likewise in our process. >> Our mailing lists are part of the project as well, and people who take >> part in the project or even lead it are expected to behave in line with >> the project, rather than against it, at the very least when >> participating in project fora and activities. >> >> Advertising services antagonic to and destructive of user freedom is >> really way out of line. > Again, there was no advertising. This is uncalled-for. Please find > more polite words to express your disagreement (if you must: after > all, that was a call for volunteers, and you don't have to volunteer > nor respond if you don't like the proposal). > > More generally, I'm disappointed by the hostility and the general > style some people allow themselves to use in this discussion. We > don't deserve to call ourselves a community that promotes a better > society if we cannot talk between ourselves in a kinder manner. Shame > on us!