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From: Alain Magloire <alain@qnx.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: RE: asynchronous MI output commands
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 00:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3518719F06577C4F85DA618E3C37AB910535A0CE@nimbus.ott.qnx.com> (raw)



> From: Daniel Jacobowitz [mailto:drow@false.org]
> 
> On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:42:03AM -0700, Jim Ingham wrote:
> > I think that the lack of notification about what has gone on when
> > somebody uses interpreter-exec to run the target is just a bug in the
> > interpreter-exec command.  Since that command allows lots of stuff to
> > go on behind the MI client's back, you need to inform the client
> > about this.  You could either post asynchronous notifications about
> > what happened (for instance an =running or whatever) or you can just
> > make the -interpreter-exec command behave like -exec-next when it
> > does indeed run the target.  The latter is what we did for Xcode, so
> > you get the *stopped message if the target was run.
> 
> This is a topic I'd like to see a single consensus on, sometime soon.
> I have an ulterior motive.
> 
> I wrote, some time ago, patches to use Guile to implement GDB CLI
> commands.  It works by, roughly, opening a bidirectional MI channel to
> Guile, and temporarily suspending the CLI channel.  But if the front
> end in use is MI, what notifications should that frontend get?  Should
> it be told the target is running, even if e.g. the user defined command
> just calls a function in the target?  Should the Guile interpreter get
> notifications when the user or MI client does something?
> 

IMHO, the MI interpreter should get a notification when the target changes
state from a side effect of CLI commands.  So the example, when the "runs"
command is executed (next, step, call, finish, signal etc...) an OOB should
be drop:
 ^running

Or for example if an external application drops a SIGINT on the inferior, I
do expect a notification. 
 *stopped,...

The GDB CLI channel probably does not need notification because the protocol
was not meant for this but rather a direct access by the users to gdb
commands, strictly query/answers.

> Basically, I think that getting this right requires multiple
> interpreters live at the same time.
> 

Is there really a case for this?  The scenario I see is within one
interpreter (say MI), you want to give more power to the users and let them
access advanced gdb commands, so the interpreter-exec provides this nicely.
The only problems is the side effects.  Notification does not have to be
complex, for example something like:
=state_change

Notification, could tell the front end to reload the settings (the
breakpoints, the watchpoints, dlls, etc ...)

> I'd like to come back to that code someday.  And, preferably, merge
> Perl and Python support also.  Kip Macy posted Perl bindings and the
> Python ones would be easy to write, now that I know Python - in fact
> it's the only one out of the three I'd be comfortable doing myself,
> the Guile bits were very skeletal.
> 


             reply	other threads:[~2006-05-11 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-12  0:19 Alain Magloire [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-11 15:02 Alain Magloire
2006-05-11 15:42 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 16:40   ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 17:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-11 17:35       ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 19:24     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 19:25       ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-10 22:15 Alain Magloire
2006-05-11  3:41 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11  8:58   ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 10:48     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 10:52       ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 11:14         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 12:50           ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 14:50             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-09  9:46 Alain Magloire
2006-05-07 22:30 Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 22:50 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-08  0:36   ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-08  1:52     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] <1147034156.28828.ezmlm@sourceware.org>
2006-05-07 21:27 ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 21:41   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-10 12:43     ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-06  1:26 Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  1:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  2:48   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:37     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 15:20       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:06     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  4:05       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:53       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 12:06         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:14   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:04     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 11:49       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:50         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 16:52           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 19:45             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 20:37               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07  0:44                 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 20:35                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07 20:42                     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 22:01                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-08  1:22                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  2:03                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-09 21:48                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  6:38                           ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-08 11:28                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  1:26                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 11:51       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:27 ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 16:40   ` Bob Rossi

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