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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Bjarke Viksoe <bviksoe@hotmail.com>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: asynchronous MI output commands
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 22:50:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060507220145.GA19231@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BAY111-F52DA19D048441A185E919A0AB0@phx.gbl>

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 11:40:54PM +0200, Bjarke Viksoe wrote:
> >Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> >
> >If I were writing a front-end, I would have an arbitration layer which
> >sent questions to GDB and received answers.  The answers will come back
> >one at a time, in the same order the questions were asked.  If you send
> >two -var-evaluate-expression commands, you'll get back two answers, in
> >that same order.
> >
> >Am I missing something?  Is there a reason that this isn't enough?
> 
> No, the abstraction layer is exactly my design - but as I explained: the 
> goal of my tool is that it's used over a remote line (eg. SSH over 
> internet) where the answer can be a couple of 100ms delayed. It is most 
> desirable to be able to send multiple commands and have the front-end 
> digest the answer as they slowly arrive - updating the UI in increments.
> Yes, my views need to send multiple -var-evaluate-expression and this is 
> the reason that I'm forced to restrict the design to what you describe. The 
> reason it's not good enough: it so slow.
> 
> Because of the latency, my "abstraction layer" runs in its own thread. This 
> makes the UI wonderfully responsive, but doesn?t allow a component/view to 
> submit a command and read the answer in the same context. Answers arrive 
> out of context and are processed separately - creating a high need to know 
> what the answer originated from.

Sorry, but I don't feel like you've answered my question.  Why does
this interfere with pipelining?

Thread A:

  - gdb_thread.submit_question("-var-evaluate-expression A")

Thread B:

  - gdb_thread.submit_question("-var-evaluate-expression B")

GDB thread:

  - Send "-var-evaluate-expression A".  Record this as an outstanding
    request.
  - Send "-var-evaluate-expression B".  Record this as an outstanding
    request.
  - Notice that data is available.
  - Parse it, and notice that it is a response to a command.  Take the
    first command off the queue of outstanding requests.  See that it
    is -var-evaluate-expression A.  Return the answer to that request's
    submission object, in whatever way you need to.
  - Notice that more data is available... etc.

If this isn't workable, can you fill in the piece I'm missing?  Why
not?  Each command should generate a single synchronous (^done, ^error)
response.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-07 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-07 22:30 Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 22:50 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2006-05-08  0:36   ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-08  1:52     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-11 10:31 ` MI: anynchronous vs. synchronous Vladimir Prus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-12  0:19 asynchronous MI output commands Alain Magloire
2006-05-11 15:02 Alain Magloire
2006-05-11 15:42 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 16:40   ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 17:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-11 17:35       ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 19:24     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 19:25       ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-10 22:15 Alain Magloire
2006-05-11  3:41 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11  8:58   ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 10:48     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 10:52       ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 11:14         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 12:50           ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 14:50             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-09  9:46 Alain Magloire
     [not found] <1147034156.28828.ezmlm@sourceware.org>
2006-05-07 21:27 ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 21:41   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-10 12:43     ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-06  1:26 Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  1:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  2:48   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:37     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 15:20       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:06     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  4:05       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:53       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 12:06         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:14   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:04     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 11:49       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:50         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 16:52           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 19:45             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 20:37               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07  0:44                 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 20:35                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07 20:42                     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 22:01                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-08  1:22                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  2:03                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-09 21:48                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  6:38                           ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-08 11:28                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  1:26                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 11:51       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:27 ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 16:40   ` Bob Rossi

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