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From: Alain Magloire <alain@qnx.com>
To: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: RE: asynchronous MI output commands
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3518719F06577C4F85DA618E3C37AB9105359F5C@nimbus.ott.qnx.com> (raw)



> > > For the record, that's basically what I have in KDevelop. There's
> command
> > > queue, and commands are sent to gdb one-at-a-time, and responses come
> > > exactly in the same order. Remembering the last issued command (i.e.
> > > instance of GDBCommand class internal to KDevelop) makes it possible
> to
> > > route the response back to the original command.
> > >
> > > I'm don't quite understand the problems being discussed in this
> thread.
> > > It's
> > > not apparent why one has to know the type of the last command while
> > > parsing, and if so, why remembering the last command is bad idea.
> > >
> > > It's hard to believe that response from MI can be useful without
> knowing
> > > the
> > > last issued command. Say, response from -data-evaluate-expression is
> > > useless if you don't know what part of frontend wants that data --
> > > evaluating expression is used in many use cases. So, you need to
> associate
> > > extra data with commands anyway.
> > >
> >
> > I agree, the example that comes to my mind is "next", "step", "finish",
> > "continue" etc ...  To do some optimization front-ends will probably
> need to
> > know the last command issue (for example clearing all the variable state
> in
> > a variable view for "continue").
> 
> I see the point, however, how do you know if the user typed continue? I
> allow the user to have access to the console, and by doing so, I can't
> make any assumptions on what GDB is doing.
> 

I suppose you could intercept the CLI commands before sending it to GDB

> > Maybe I'm mistaken but I have the impression, looking at the thread,
> some
> > folks are confusing OOB and synchronous response that comes after
> issuing a
> > command.
> 
> I'm hopefull not confusing them, but maybe. For synchronous commands, I
> just think it's a little ugly that you need the MI input command to
> determine what an MI output command is.
> 

You can certainly parse the MI output without knowing what the input was.
The problem is when you get answer what do you do with it?  For example
-data-evaluate-expression may be an action for hovering or to update a tree
viewer etc... Most commands are "synchronous" i.e. an answered to a
question.  Usually front ends will have callbacks attach to the MI
question/command.


> For asynchronous commands, there is simply no way to know what you are
> looking at AFAIK. You just have to poke around until your fingers get
> tired. I still need to research this more though.
> 

OOB were suppose to be a way for GDB to notify of changes, that did not come
from a user action. Comes to mind hitting a breakpoint, thread creation,
loading of a library, etc...

> Bob Rossi


             reply	other threads:[~2006-05-11 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-11 15:02 Alain Magloire [this message]
2006-05-11 15:42 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 16:40   ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 17:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-11 17:35       ` Jim Ingham
2006-05-11 19:24     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 19:25       ` Jim Ingham
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-12  0:19 Alain Magloire
2006-05-10 22:15 Alain Magloire
2006-05-11  3:41 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11  8:58   ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 10:48     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 10:52       ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 11:14         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-11 12:50           ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-11 14:50             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-09  9:46 Alain Magloire
2006-05-07 22:30 Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 22:50 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-08  0:36   ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-08  1:52     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] <1147034156.28828.ezmlm@sourceware.org>
2006-05-07 21:27 ` Bjarke Viksoe
2006-05-07 21:41   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-10 12:43     ` Vladimir Prus
2006-05-06  1:26 Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  1:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  2:48   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:37     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 15:20       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:06     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06  4:05       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:53       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 12:06         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:14   ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  4:04     ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 11:49       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 11:50         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 16:52           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-06 19:45             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 20:37               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07  0:44                 ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 20:35                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-07 20:42                     ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-07 22:01                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-08  1:22                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  2:03                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-05-09 21:48                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  6:38                           ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-08 11:28                             ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-08  1:26                         ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06 11:51       ` Bob Rossi
2006-05-06  3:27 ` Nick Roberts
2006-05-06 16:40   ` Bob Rossi

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