From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Paul Schlie <schlie@comcast.net>
Cc: Dan Shearer <dan@shearer.org>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [discuss] Support for reverse-execution
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 22:08:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050520220807.GA11445@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BEB3D688.A3A7%schlie@comcast.net>
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 06:01:44PM -0400, Paul Schlie wrote:
> > From: Dan Shearer <dan@shearer.org>
> > In the longer term yes, GDB should be able to debug with a sense of
> > direction and time. But I think it will take quite a bit of experimentation
> > before we have a clear model of how to do this, and the only way I can think
> > of for both having a reversible GDB and not touching GDB too much is by
> > considering remote targets first.
>
> - Then you'll end up with nothing more than an interface to a propriety
> simulator, which doesn't seem like a good goal or approach for GDB.
This argument is so bogus that I need to call you on it. You end up
with a reasonable interface to _any_ simulator, whether proprietary or
not. The details of an efficient implementation will be obviously
dependent on the simulator's state and implementation.
I am inclined to agree with the posted proposals that the
implementation of reverse-stepi should be opaque to GDB, at least for
now. The performance of shuffling state diffs over the remote protocol
- or even just references to them - would be horrid. It also means
that GDB will be limited to a particular class of implementations of
reversible simulation instead of the concept of reversible simulation.
You're describing something which may be interesting, someday. Do feel
welcome to implement it; we'll be glad to help. I don't think that
it's inherently more appropriate than the proposed interface, though.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-20 15:49 Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 17:41 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-20 22:01 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 22:08 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2005-05-20 22:43 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 0:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 1:42 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 1:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 1:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:03 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 14:13 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 14:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:04 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 20:58 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:35 ` Paul Schlie
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-21 15:53 Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 22:11 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 23:32 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 21:59 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:51 Michael Snyder
2005-05-21 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 21:44 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:25 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:16 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-23 18:19 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:11 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 19:02 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 21:03 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-19 1:23 Dan Shearer
2005-05-19 13:01 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-19 13:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-19 13:47 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 11:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-20 13:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 13:36 ` Fabian Cenedese
2005-05-20 13:47 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 22:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 12:22 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 13:19 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 13:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 15:40 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-16 17:47 Dan Shearer
2005-05-16 18:04 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-20 18:15 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 0:05 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-05-21 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 10:28 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 12:55 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 14:39 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 14:19 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 17:43 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-23 19:39 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-12 23:08 Michael Snyder
2005-05-13 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-19 13:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-19 18:46 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-19 19:26 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 13:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 14:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-20 20:48 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 20:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 20:38 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 15:05 ` Vladimir Prus
2005-05-20 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 18:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 19:27 ` Stan Shebs
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