From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
To: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [discuss] Support for reverse-execution
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:30:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c55d48$Blat.v2.4$04221c60@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050520130342.GA25206@nevyn.them.org> (message from Daniel Jacobowitz on Fri, 20 May 2005 09:03:42 -0400)
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:03:42 -0400
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
> Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
>
> > > The program doesn't have a persistant direction.
> >
> > I envision that adding this could be a natural extension. Using
> > "backwards" rather than "reverse" will save us from the ambiguity if
> > we ever add such a feature.
>
> I really don't think that we should have such a feature. It seems like
> a crummy interface - a resume command which goes either forwards or
> backwards in time depending on some global state?
I actually don't hate the idea so much, but let's not argue about
hypothetical features.
> > > "back-continue" and "back-next" just don't sound right.
> >
> > Neither does "reverse-next". Perhaps we should use "prev" instead.
>
> It seems to me that if we give them unique names, the logical parallel
> with existing commands may be lost.
I'd rather lose parallel based on literal similarity, than introduce
commands whose names contain an internal contradiction, like back-next
or reverse-next. To me, "next" implicitly means "forward", similar to
your interpretation of "reverse" to mean "backward".
> But perhaps not. Let's try for
> the full set:
> continue reverse-continue
> step reverse-step
> next reverse-next
> stepi reverse-stepi
> nexti reverse-nexti
> until reverse-until
> advance reverse-advance
> finish reverse-finish
>
> I think that's the full set of reversible commands. Which of them
> don't work? I agree that reverse-next is a little weak, but everything
> else seems OK.
reverse-nexti is like reverse-next, reverse-advance has similar
problems, and reverse-finish is also awkward (since we don't
``finish'' anything, we get to the beginning, not the end).
> We could use r-prefixed commands. I don't think that helps much, since
> we're already planning to offer abbreviations like "rs" and "rni", but
> they're my second-favorite choice:
> rcontinue, rstep, rnext, rstepi, rnexti, runtil, radvance, rfinish
These are better, since the single `r' doesn't produce the kind of
contradictions that "reverse" does.
> This one's kind of nice, we could use suffixes instead. But
> next-backwards is very awkward:
> continue-backwards, step-backwards, next-backwards, stepi-backwards,
> nexti-backwards, until-backwards, advance-backwards, finish-backwards
These are okay from the mnemonic point of view, but they have a big
disadvantage for a CLI junky such as myself: they make "next" etc.
ambiguous, and you need to type a long string to disambiguate the
commands that today have very short unambiguous abbreviations.
So it seems that, unless someone else comes up with a better idea,
rnext, rstep, etc. is the best compromise.
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-12 23:08 Michael Snyder
2005-05-13 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-19 13:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-19 18:46 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-19 19:26 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 13:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-05-20 14:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-20 20:48 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 20:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 20:38 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 15:05 ` Vladimir Prus
2005-05-20 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 18:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 19:27 ` Stan Shebs
2005-05-16 17:47 Dan Shearer
2005-05-16 18:04 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-20 18:15 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 0:05 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-05-21 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 10:28 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 12:55 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 14:39 ` Russell Shaw
2005-05-21 14:19 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-21 17:43 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-23 19:39 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-19 1:23 Dan Shearer
2005-05-19 13:01 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-19 13:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-19 13:47 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 11:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-20 13:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 13:36 ` Fabian Cenedese
2005-05-20 13:47 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 22:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 12:22 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 13:19 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 13:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 15:40 ` Johan Rydberg
2005-05-20 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 15:49 Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 17:41 ` Dan Shearer
2005-05-20 22:01 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 22:08 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 22:43 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 0:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 1:42 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 1:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 1:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:03 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 14:13 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 14:23 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 15:04 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 20:58 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:35 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-20 19:02 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 21:03 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:11 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-20 21:16 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-21 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-23 18:19 ` Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:25 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:44 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 21:51 Michael Snyder
2005-05-21 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-20 21:59 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 22:11 Michael Snyder
2005-05-20 23:32 ` Paul Schlie
2005-05-21 15:53 Paul Schlie
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