From: Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>,
Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>,
gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [maint] The GDB maintenance process
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:59:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030219155956.A83389@molenda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E5419CD.8050203@redhat.com>; from ac131313@redhat.com on Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:57:01PM -0500
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:57:01PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> > Using GNATS as the infrastructure to track patches is pathetic.
>
> Not as pathetic as `cagney's mailbox sitting on a lapbrick with a
> failing hard disk'.
Well, yes. :-) I didn't mean "you, the fellow who has put patches
into gnats, are a fool" -- I meant that the overhead over putting
patches in gnats is too high compared with just sending them to
gdb-patches. IMHO this is a method that will fail, which is why
I dragged my feet when Elena originally requested the gdb-patches
gnats database be set up. Ignoring the fact that gnats is a bug
tracker--not a magical patch tracking database--as long as it isn't
at the center of every developer/maintainer's patch workflow, it
will be doomed to irrelevance.
It's got to be easy, it's got to be relevant, and it's gotta be the
way everything is done.
> > Using mailing lists to track patches is annoying.
>
> Er, you can't track patches using a mailing list. A mailing list can be
> used to submit/discuss patches. It can't be used to track their state.
> that needs a database.
I was speaking loosely - I meant the combination of the mailing
list and the web archives of that mailing list. The mailing list
web archives are a being used as the patch repository right
now--people use URLs into the archives to refer to old patches,
they use google or the htdig search engine to find old patches,
and they grope around blindly to figure out what ever happened with
a given patch.
> Time to install aegis, ay?
I've never looked at Aegis, so I can't say. First the gdb maintainers
and developers need to decide what they want and will use, then
make it exist; not look at what exists and settle for it. Maybe
Aegis is exactly what we'd all love in a magical patch tracking
database and we can use it as-is, but IMHO it's too early in that
discussion to care one way or another.
J
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-17 18:07 Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <drow@mvista.com>
2003-02-17 18:58 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-17 21:01 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-19 1:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 2:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2003-02-19 15:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 22:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 13:24 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-19 15:51 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 14:50 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 17:33 ` David Carlton
2003-02-19 17:57 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-19 18:56 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 20:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:17 ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20 1:53 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 19:35 ` David Carlton
2003-02-20 18:32 ` Richard Earnshaw
2003-02-22 0:53 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:12 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 16:24 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 18:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:36 ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-19 23:52 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:59 ` Jason Molenda [this message]
2003-02-20 0:16 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20 0:21 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18 2:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18 4:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 3:49 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 2:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:33 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 22:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 22:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 22:53 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:53 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20 1:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 2:48 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:57 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 6:05 ` David Carlton
2003-02-23 23:26 ` Mark Kettenis
2003-02-24 7:18 ` Andrew Cagney
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-24 5:29 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 14:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-20 15:56 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 15:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:19 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:24 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 17:13 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-22 23:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-23 1:57 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-23 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-18 6:08 Zaretskii Eli
[not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25 1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:31 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:53 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 9:11 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 9:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27 8:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19 9:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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