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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
Cc: Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [maint] The GDB maintenance process
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:21:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030219152123.GA4751@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E539FF8.70201@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:17:12AM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> 
> >> > Right now, we use stricter policies to prevent problems which cause
> >> > breakage.  I think these policies are stifling us.  Loosening them (and
> >> > maybe adding a formal patch reversion policy) would let more people fix
> >> > problems more easily, as they arise, without slowing development.
> >> > 
> >>
> >>I really think that having the bug database track patches is a very
> >>big improvement. We should try to push its use a bit more before
> >>giving up on the current rules. 
> >
> >
> >I don't like it, but that's just my general anti-GNATS rancor.  Maybe
> >Bugzilla will be better.
> 
> The idea of tracking things as bugs or GNATS?

Mostly, GNATS.

> Tracking this stuff in a public database is, I think, clearly better 
> than the status quo (my mailbox).  It's already been mentioned that 
> there is possibly a lack of response with some maintainers.  At least 
> with me putting unreviewed patches in the database, we can figure out 
> what patches there are, and if there is a problem.  (my todo list 
> includes checking that all the key developers are on the bug tracking 
> list, I suspect that some are not.)
> 
> Anyway, have a look in the database, you'll notice all sorts of 
> interesting things.

Which reminds me.  We've got two GNATS databases set up for GDB: 'gdb'
and 'gdb-patches'.  Should we use the gdb-patches GNATS database to
separate them from bug reports?

> For instance search for tdep & h8300.  There is an obvious backlog and 
> someone (a global maintainer like yourself or I) needs to step up and 
> work through them with the contributors.  That task, while no where near 
> as glamerous as a new feature, is absolutly needed and maintainers do 
> need to be willing to chip in (in fact I think that task and 
> documentation should be given a higher profile when handing out 
> `credit').  Hopefuly these patches will even yield a new developer.

TBH, I've been avoiding it because I don't know the slightest thing
about the h8300 and it seemed like someone (I don't remember who -
MichaelS maybe?) did.  If I'm wrong then one of us is just going to
have to suck it up and learn about the h8300... yay, another project.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-19 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-17 18:07 Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] ` <drow@mvista.com>
2003-02-17 18:58   ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-17 21:01 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-19  1:49   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19  2:26     ` Joel Brobecker
2003-02-19 15:43       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:29         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 22:04           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 13:24     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-19 15:51       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 14:50     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 17:33       ` David Carlton
2003-02-19 17:57         ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-19 18:56           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 20:39             ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:17               ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20  1:53                 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 19:35           ` David Carlton
2003-02-20 18:32       ` Richard Earnshaw
2003-02-22  0:53         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:12     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:21       ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2003-02-19 16:24         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 18:36           ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:36           ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-19 23:52             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:59               ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20  0:16                 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20  0:21                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18  2:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18  4:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19  3:49   ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:14     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:31       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19  2:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:33   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 22:24     ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 22:39       ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 22:53         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:53       ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20  1:27         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20  2:48   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:43   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:57   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19  6:05 ` David Carlton
2003-02-23 23:26 ` Mark Kettenis
2003-02-24  7:18   ` Andrew Cagney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-24  5:29 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 14:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-20 15:56   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:39     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 15:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:19   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:24     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:31     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 17:13     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-22 23:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-23  1:57     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-23 19:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-18  6:08 Zaretskii Eli
     [not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25  1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:31     ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:53         ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  9:11             ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  9:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27  8:13                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19  9:05                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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