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From: Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>
To: Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>,
	Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [maint] The GDB maintenance process
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:16:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15956.8008.208205.915560@localhost.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030219155956.A83389@molenda.com>

Jason Molenda writes:
 > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:57:01PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
 > 
 > > > Using GNATS as the infrastructure to track patches is pathetic.
 > > 
 > > Not as pathetic as `cagney's mailbox sitting on a lapbrick with a 
 > > failing hard disk'.
 > 
 > Well, yes. :-)  I didn't mean "you, the fellow who has put patches
 > into gnats, are a fool" -- I meant that the overhead over putting
 > patches in gnats is too high compared with just sending them to
 > gdb-patches.  IMHO this is a method that will fail, which is why
 > I dragged my feet when Elena originally requested the gdb-patches
 > gnats database be set up.  Ignoring the fact that gnats is a bug

It must have been my evil twin, because I don't remember asking for
this (I am in favor of something like it, though). To be honest, it
was a project that Jim Blandy started but wasn't finished. It was
abandoned because there were problems with including a patch
preserving spaces, or something like that.

 > tracker--not a magical patch tracking database--as long as it isn't
 > at the center of every developer/maintainer's patch workflow, it
 > will be doomed to irrelevance.
 > 
 > It's got to be easy, it's got to be relevant, and it's gotta be the
 > way everything is done.
 > 
 > > > Using mailing lists to track patches is annoying.
 > > 
 > > Er, you can't track patches using a mailing list.  A mailing list can be 
 > > used to submit/discuss patches.  It can't be used to track their state. 
 > >   that needs a database.
 > 
 > I was speaking loosely - I meant the combination of the mailing
 > list and the web archives of that mailing list.  The mailing list
 > web archives are a being used as the patch repository right
 > now--people use URLs into the archives to refer to old patches,
 > they use google or the htdig search engine to find old patches,
 > and they grope around blindly to figure out what ever happened with
 > a given patch.
 > 
 > > Time to install aegis, ay?
 > 
 > I've never looked at Aegis, so I can't say.  First the gdb maintainers
 > and developers need to decide what they want and will use, then
 > make it exist; not look at what exists and settle for it.  Maybe
 > Aegis is exactly what we'd all love in a magical patch tracking
 > database and we can use it as-is, but IMHO it's too early in that
 > discussion to care one way or another.
 > 
 > 
 > J


  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-20  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-17 18:07 Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] ` <drow@mvista.com>
2003-02-17 18:58   ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-17 21:01 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-19  1:49   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19  2:26     ` Joel Brobecker
2003-02-19 15:43       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:29         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 22:04           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 13:24     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-19 15:51       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 14:50     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 17:33       ` David Carlton
2003-02-19 17:57         ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-19 18:56           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 20:39             ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:17               ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20  1:53                 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 19:35           ` David Carlton
2003-02-20 18:32       ` Richard Earnshaw
2003-02-22  0:53         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:12     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:21       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 16:24         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 18:36           ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:36           ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-19 23:52             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:59               ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20  0:16                 ` Elena Zannoni [this message]
2003-02-20  0:21                 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18  2:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18  4:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19  3:49   ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:14     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:31       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19  2:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:33   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 22:24     ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 22:39       ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 22:53         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:53       ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20  1:27         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20  2:48   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:43   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:57   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19  6:05 ` David Carlton
2003-02-23 23:26 ` Mark Kettenis
2003-02-24  7:18   ` Andrew Cagney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-24  5:29 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 14:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-20 15:56   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:39     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 15:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:19   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:24     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:31     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 17:13     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-22 23:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-23  1:57     ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-23 19:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-18  6:08 Zaretskii Eli
     [not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25  1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:31     ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:53         ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  9:11             ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  9:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27  8:13                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19  9:05                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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