From: Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>
To: Jason Molenda <jason-swarelist@molenda.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>,
Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>,
Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>,
gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [maint] The GDB maintenance process
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:16:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15956.8008.208205.915560@localhost.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030219155956.A83389@molenda.com>
Jason Molenda writes:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 06:57:01PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>
> > > Using GNATS as the infrastructure to track patches is pathetic.
> >
> > Not as pathetic as `cagney's mailbox sitting on a lapbrick with a
> > failing hard disk'.
>
> Well, yes. :-) I didn't mean "you, the fellow who has put patches
> into gnats, are a fool" -- I meant that the overhead over putting
> patches in gnats is too high compared with just sending them to
> gdb-patches. IMHO this is a method that will fail, which is why
> I dragged my feet when Elena originally requested the gdb-patches
> gnats database be set up. Ignoring the fact that gnats is a bug
It must have been my evil twin, because I don't remember asking for
this (I am in favor of something like it, though). To be honest, it
was a project that Jim Blandy started but wasn't finished. It was
abandoned because there were problems with including a patch
preserving spaces, or something like that.
> tracker--not a magical patch tracking database--as long as it isn't
> at the center of every developer/maintainer's patch workflow, it
> will be doomed to irrelevance.
>
> It's got to be easy, it's got to be relevant, and it's gotta be the
> way everything is done.
>
> > > Using mailing lists to track patches is annoying.
> >
> > Er, you can't track patches using a mailing list. A mailing list can be
> > used to submit/discuss patches. It can't be used to track their state.
> > that needs a database.
>
> I was speaking loosely - I meant the combination of the mailing
> list and the web archives of that mailing list. The mailing list
> web archives are a being used as the patch repository right
> now--people use URLs into the archives to refer to old patches,
> they use google or the htdig search engine to find old patches,
> and they grope around blindly to figure out what ever happened with
> a given patch.
>
> > Time to install aegis, ay?
>
> I've never looked at Aegis, so I can't say. First the gdb maintainers
> and developers need to decide what they want and will use, then
> make it exist; not look at what exists and settle for it. Maybe
> Aegis is exactly what we'd all love in a magical patch tracking
> database and we can use it as-is, but IMHO it's too early in that
> discussion to care one way or another.
>
>
> J
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-17 18:07 Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <drow@mvista.com>
2003-02-17 18:58 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-17 21:01 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-19 1:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 2:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2003-02-19 15:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 22:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 13:24 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-19 15:51 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 14:50 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 17:33 ` David Carlton
2003-02-19 17:57 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-02-19 18:56 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 20:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:17 ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20 1:53 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 19:35 ` David Carlton
2003-02-20 18:32 ` Richard Earnshaw
2003-02-22 0:53 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:12 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 16:24 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 18:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 23:36 ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-19 23:52 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:59 ` Jason Molenda
2003-02-20 0:16 ` Elena Zannoni [this message]
2003-02-20 0:21 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18 2:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-18 4:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 3:49 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:14 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 16:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-19 2:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 16:33 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 22:24 ` Jim Blandy
2003-02-19 22:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2003-02-19 22:53 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 23:53 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-02-20 1:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 2:48 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:43 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-21 23:57 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-19 6:05 ` David Carlton
2003-02-23 23:26 ` Mark Kettenis
2003-02-24 7:18 ` Andrew Cagney
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-24 5:29 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 20:11 Zaretskii Eli
2003-02-20 14:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-20 15:56 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 15:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:19 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-02-20 16:24 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 16:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-20 17:13 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-22 23:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-23 1:57 ` Daniel Berlin
2003-02-23 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-02-18 6:08 Zaretskii Eli
[not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25 1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:31 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:53 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 9:11 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 9:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27 8:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19 9:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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