From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, bauerman@br.ibm.com,
sergiodj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] 'catch syscall' feature -- Architecture-independent part
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:38:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uljvyt3x5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811051228.29626.pedro@codesourcery.com>
> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:28:29 +0000
> Cc: bauerman@br.ibm.com, sergiodj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
>
> > > strace-like tracers on Windows are usually more interested in
> > > tracing calls to all kinds of dlls, and they usually do so by
> > > playing games with the import tables, I believe.
> >
> > I was thinking about the latter, as that is what is usually
> > interesting.
>
> Yes, but that falls into api-tracing land, which is a bit different
> from syscall tracing.
It's different in implementation details, but very similar in essence,
as far as Joe Random Hacker is concerned. From the Windows
programmer's POV, Windows APIs _are_ syscalls.
> When using a debugger, if you're going to be attached to the
> inferior anyway, it doesn't look like it's much interesting to have
> it as a separate feature
Sorry, I don't understand why. If you thought about setting a
breakpoint on a Windows API call, then this is not a trivial matter,
especially if you are not a Windows internals guru.
> If someone would want to implement "catch syscall" for native
> windows, I'd say that some form to catch real syscalls is what
> would make more sense, because that's what you can't do with a
> regular breakpoint.
I find it hard to believe that catching Int 2Eh calls would be
interesting to most Windows programmers. Unlike Linux, the Windows
kernel implements only a tiny portion of useful services, the rest is
mostly user-space DLLs. A radically different architecture calls for
a radically different interpretation of what is a ``syscall''.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-05 18:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-04 4:32 Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-04 16:17 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07 3:30 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 12:12 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07 13:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-08 15:35 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-04 17:57 ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-04 21:55 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-11-04 22:33 ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-05 19:05 ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-05 19:13 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 3:41 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 3:39 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 18:21 ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-04 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:12 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-11-04 22:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:35 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05 4:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 13:34 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-05 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-08 19:31 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-11-05 14:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 18:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 23:03 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-11-04 22:31 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 4:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 12:29 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-11-05 18:57 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 19:34 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 21:10 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-06 4:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 14:32 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 10:10 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 13:32 ` Mark Kettenis
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-30 18:12 Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-02 21:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-03 2:33 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-03 6:07 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-03 17:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-04 23:07 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-04 23:04 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-06 17:22 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-10 13:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-10 15:28 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-12 2:26 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-15 5:40 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-16 3:35 ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-16 12:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-16 15:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-16 16:28 ` Joel Brobecker
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