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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, bauerman@br.ibm.com,
	sergiodj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] 'catch syscall' feature -- 	Architecture-independent	part
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:38:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uljvyt3x5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811051228.29626.pedro@codesourcery.com>

> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:28:29 +0000
> Cc: bauerman@br.ibm.com,  sergiodj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> 
> > > strace-like tracers on Windows are usually more interested in
> > > tracing calls to all kinds of dlls, and they usually do so by
> > > playing games with the import tables, I believe.
> > 
> > I was thinking about the latter, as that is what is usually
> > interesting.
> 
> Yes, but that falls into api-tracing land, which is a bit different
> from syscall tracing.

It's different in implementation details, but very similar in essence,
as far as Joe Random Hacker is concerned.  From the Windows
programmer's POV, Windows APIs _are_ syscalls.

> When using a debugger, if you're going to be attached to the
> inferior anyway, it doesn't look like it's much interesting to have
> it as a separate feature

Sorry, I don't understand why.  If you thought about setting a
breakpoint on a Windows API call, then this is not a trivial matter,
especially if you are not a Windows internals guru.

> If someone would want to implement "catch syscall" for native
> windows, I'd say that some form to catch real syscalls is what
> would make more sense, because that's what you can't do with a
> regular breakpoint.

I find it hard to believe that catching Int 2Eh calls would be
interesting to most Windows programmers.  Unlike Linux, the Windows
kernel implements only a tiny portion of useful services, the rest is
mostly user-space DLLs.  A radically different architecture calls for
a radically different interpretation of what is a ``syscall''.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-05 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-04  4:32 Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-04 16:17 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07  3:30   ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 12:12     ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07 13:30       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-08 15:35       ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-04 17:57 ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-04 21:55   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-11-04 22:33     ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-05 19:05       ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-05 19:13         ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07  3:41         ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07  3:39   ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-07 18:21     ` Tom Tromey
2008-11-04 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:12   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-11-04 22:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 22:35       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05  4:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 13:34           ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-11-05 18:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-08 19:31             ` Mark Kettenis
2008-11-05 14:55           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05 18:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 18:59               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-11-05 19:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 23:03               ` Mark Kettenis
2008-11-04 22:31     ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05  4:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 12:29         ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 18:38           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-11-05 18:57             ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 19:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 19:34                 ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 20:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 21:10                     ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-06  4:27                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 14:32                         ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-07  9:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 10:10                             ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-05 13:32         ` Mark Kettenis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-30 18:12 Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-02 21:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-03  2:33   ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-03  6:07     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-03 17:52       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-04 23:07         ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-04 23:04       ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-06 17:22         ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-10 13:12           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-10 15:28           ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-12  2:26           ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-15  5:40             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-10-16  3:35               ` Sérgio Durigan Júnior
2008-10-16 12:37                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-16 15:17                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-10-16 16:28                     ` Joel Brobecker

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