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From: "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
To: Guinevere Larsen <guinevere@redhat.com>,
	"gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 02/12] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type.
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:43:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SN7PR11MB76389DF607EC89AF352B004EF9E92@SN7PR11MB7638.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46ab3983-6fed-476a-b01b-a20867e84c33@redhat.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guinevere Larsen <guinevere@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 2:54 PM
> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>; gdb-
> patches@sourceware.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type.
> 
> On 1/30/25 7:28 AM, Schimpe, Christina wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Guinevere Larsen <guinevere@redhat.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 2:35 PM
> >> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>; gdb-
> >> patches@sourceware.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type.
> >>
> >> On 12/20/24 5:04 PM, Schimpe, Christina wrote:
> >>> Some register sets can be activated and deactivated by the OS during
> >>> the runtime of a process.  One example register is the Intel CET
> >>> shadow stack pointer.  This adds a new type of register set to
> >>> handle such cases.  We shouldn't deactivate these regsets and should
> >>> not show a warning if we fail to read them.
> >>> ---
> >>>    gdbserver/linux-low.cc | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> >>>    gdbserver/linux-low.h  |  7 ++++++-
> >>>    2 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/gdbserver/linux-low.cc b/gdbserver/linux-low.cc index
> >>> 50ce2b44927..355b28d9fe4 100644
> >>> --- a/gdbserver/linux-low.cc
> >>> +++ b/gdbserver/linux-low.cc
> >>> @@ -5007,23 +5007,31 @@ regsets_fetch_inferior_registers (struct
> >> regsets_info *regsets_info,
> >>>          if (res < 0)
> >>>    	{
> >>>    	  if (errno == EIO
> >>> -	      || (errno == EINVAL && regset->type == OPTIONAL_REGS))
> >>> +	      || (errno == EINVAL
> >>> +		  && (regset->type == OPTIONAL_REGS
> >>> +		      || regset->type == OPTIONAL_RUNTIME_REGS)))
> >>>    	    {
> >>>    	      /* If we get EIO on a regset, or an EINVAL and the regset is
> >>> -		 optional, do not try it again for this process mode.  */
> >>> +		 optional, do not try it again for this process mode.
> >>> +		 Even if the regset can be enabled at runtime it is safe
> >>> +		 to deactivate the regset in case of EINVAL, as we know
> >>> +		 the regset itself was the invalid argument of the ptrace
> >>> +		 call.  */
> >>>    	      disable_regset (regsets_info, regset);
> >> I'm somewhat confused by this patch.
> >>
> >> The commit message and other comments here say that
> >> optional_runtime_regs shouldn't be disabled. However, in here, if we
> >> get EINVAL we *will* disable the regset. Did you mean to use != instead of ==
> ?
> >>
> >> I'll be honest, I don't know enough about the regset subsystem to
> >> know which is the correct option, I just think it has to be consistent.
> >>
> > Hi Guinevere,
> >
> > Thank you for the review.
> >
> > For the errno EINVAL we want to disable the regset, as we don't want
> > to call ptrace using NT_X86_SHSTK again. This specific errno can
> > happen if the kernel does not support ptrace using NT_X86_SHSTK (older linux
> kernels). I tried to explain that here:
> >
> >>> +		 Even if the regset can be enabled at runtime it is safe
> >>> +		 to deactivate the regset in case of EINVAL, as we know
> >>> +		 the regset itself was the invalid argument of the ptrace
> >>> +		 call.  */
> > In case shadow stack is just not active but supported by the kernel we
> > see ENODEV and we don't disable the regset, which I explained in
> > another comment for the corresponding code area:
> >
> > /* ENODATA or ENODEV may be returned if the regset is
> >       currently not "active".  For ENODEV we additionally check
> >       if the register set is of type OPTIONAL_RUNTIME_REGS.
> >       This can happen in normal operation, so suppress the
> >       warning in this case.
> >
> > I didn't want to be too specific here to make the commit generic.
> >
> > Is there something I could add to make it more understandable or maybe
> > there is just some information missing in the commit message?
> 
> Yeah, ok, so the commit message needs an update.
> 
> Maybe something like:
> 
> Some register sets can be activated and deactivated by the OS during the runtime
> of a process.  One example register is the Intel CET shadow stack pointer.  This
> adds a new type of register set to handle such cases.  When reading them, we
> shouldn't deactivate these regsets and should not show a warning if they are
> deactivated, but should deactivate them if they are unsupported by the kernel.
> That can be deciphered based on the error returned by the ptrace call, if we fail to
> read the registered.
> 
> Or something similar.
> 
> I think it is important to explain in the commit message that one error means
> "inactive" while other means "unsupported", so that in 5-10 years we can look
> back at this commit and be sure the disable wasn't added incorrectly.

I agree, I should improve the commit message.  I like your suggestion for a new version, 
but I also noticed that we can probably deactivate the register set if we try to write them, too
(on a system with older kernel) or I don't remember why I didn't cover this scenario yet.

So I will double check and apply this in the next version of this series, where I will also enhance the
commit message.

Christina
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-30 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20 20:04 [PATCH 00/12] Add CET shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 01/12] gdb, testsuite: Rename set_sanitizer_default to append_environment Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 13:45   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 13:07     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:27       ` Tom de Vries
2025-01-30 16:39         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 02/12] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 13:35   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 10:28     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 13:53       ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 17:43         ` Schimpe, Christina [this message]
2025-02-06  2:59       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:15         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 03/12] gdbserver: Add assert in x86_linux_read_description Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:00   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 04/12] gdb: Sync up x86-gcc-cpuid.h with cpuid.h from gcc 14 branch Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:03   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:23     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 05/12] gdb, gdbserver: Use xstate_bv for target description creation on x86 Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:51   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:45     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:09   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:33     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 06/12] gdb, gdbserver: Add support of Intel shadow stack pointer register Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:13   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 14:33     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  3:44       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 07/12] gdb, bfd: amd64 linux coredump support with shadow stack Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:15   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 11:54     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 08/12] gdb: Handle shadow stack pointer register unwinding for amd64 linux Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:29   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:11     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 16:13       ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:40         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:30   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 14:40     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 09/12] gdb, gdbarch: Enable inferior calls for shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:31   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 15:07     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  3:57       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-10  8:37         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 10/12] gdb: Implement amd64 linux shadow stack support for inferior calls Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:34   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 11:55     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:05 ` [PATCH 11/12] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to get the shadow stack pointer Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 20:27   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 10:33     ` Luis Machado
2025-01-30 12:34       ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 13:42         ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-02-06  3:35   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 12:01     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  4:03       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-10  8:58         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-11  1:53           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-15  3:45             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-16 10:45               ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-20  8:48                 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-21  5:10                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-21  9:41                     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:05 ` [PATCH 12/12] gdb: Enable displaced stepping with shadow stack on amd64 linux Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  9:04     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-02  9:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-02-06  3:37   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-01-16 14:01 ` [PING][PATCH 00/12] Add CET shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-27  9:44   ` [PING*2][PATCH " Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 15:01 ` [PATCH " Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 17:46   ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-04  3:57     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-04  9:40       ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:44         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann

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