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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
To: "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
Cc: "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to get the shadow stack pointer.
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:53:31 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7ths0v8.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR11MB7638286FA0F182D8EAFCCF91F9F22@SN7PR11MB7638.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (Christina Schimpe's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2025 08:58:36 +0000")


"Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com> writes:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 5:04 AM
>> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
>> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to get the
>> shadow stack pointer.
>>
>>
>> "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com> writes:
>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 4:35 AM
>> >> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
>> >> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to
>> >> get the shadow stack pointer.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > diff --git a/gdb/gdbarch_components.py b/gdb/gdbarch_components.py
>> >> > index 52f265e8e0e..df70cb082a4 100644
>> >> > --- a/gdb/gdbarch_components.py
>> >> > +++ b/gdb/gdbarch_components.py
>> >> > @@ -2822,6 +2822,8 @@ Some targets support special
>> >> > hardware-assisted control-flow protection  technologies.  For
>> >> > example, Intel's Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET)
>> >> > provides a shadow stack and
>> >> indirect branch tracking.
>> >> >  To enable inferior calls the function shadow_stack_push has to be provided.
>> >> > +The method get_shadow_stack_pointer has to be provided to enable
>> >> > +displaced stepping.
>> >> >
>> >> >  Push the address NEW_ADDR on the shadow stack and update the
>> >> > shadow stack  pointer.
>> >> > @@ -2831,3 +2833,11 @@ pointer.
>> >> >      params=[("CORE_ADDR", "new_addr")],
>> >> >      predicate=True,
>> >> >  )
>> >> > +
>> >> > +Method(
>> >> > +    type="std::optional<CORE_ADDR>",
>> >> > +    name="get_shadow_stack_pointer",
>> >> > +    params=[],
>> >> > +    predefault="default_get_shadow_stack_pointer",
>> >> > +    invalid=False,
>> >> > +)
>> >>
>> >> Ideally, there should be a comment on this method entry.
>> >>
>> >> This method is only used in amd64-tdep.c and i386-tdep.c. IMHO it
>> >> would be better to put it in i386_gdbarch_tdep instead.
>> >
>> > Hi Thiago,
>> >
>> > Thank you for the review.
>> >
>> > As also discussed here:
>> > https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/2025-February/215266.html
>> > , I wonder if it's better to keep the code generic.
>>
>> Indeed, that's a good point. In the case of this method, I have an additional
>> concern though: its callers assume that if gdbarch_get_shadow_stack_pointer
>> returns a value, then it means that shadow stacks are enabled in the inferior. But
>> this is an x86 particularity. On AArch64, if the processor supports shadow stacks
>> then the shadow stack register is always available, even if shadow stacks are
>> turned off.
>
> Ah ok, I did not know.
>
>> So I think that there should be an additional method to indicate whether shadow
>> stacks are enabled in the inferior.
>
> Yes, that makes sense. But I want to avoid that we call ptrace twice on x86,  once in the method
> to check the enablement state and once to get the shadow stack pointer.

Ok, makes sense.

> Would something like that be acceptable as well?
>
> Method(
>       comment="""
> If possible, return the shadow stack pointer. On some architectures, the shadow stack
> pointer is available even if the feature is disabled.  To return the shadow stack
> enablement state configure SHADOW_STACK_ENABLED.
>   """,
> type="std::optional<CORE_ADDR>",
> name="get_shadow_stack_pointer",
> params=[("bool &", "shadow_stack_enabled")],
> predefault="default_get_shadow_stack_pointer",
> invalid=False,
> )

Yes, this looks good.

--
Thiago

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20 20:04 [PATCH 00/12] Add CET shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 01/12] gdb, testsuite: Rename set_sanitizer_default to append_environment Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 13:45   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 13:07     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:27       ` Tom de Vries
2025-01-30 16:39         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 02/12] gdbserver: Add optional runtime register set type Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 13:35   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 10:28     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 13:53       ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 17:43         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  2:59       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:15         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 03/12] gdbserver: Add assert in x86_linux_read_description Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:00   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 04/12] gdb: Sync up x86-gcc-cpuid.h with cpuid.h from gcc 14 branch Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:03   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:23     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 05/12] gdb, gdbserver: Use xstate_bv for target description creation on x86 Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:51   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:45     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:09   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 12:33     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 06/12] gdb, gdbserver: Add support of Intel shadow stack pointer register Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:13   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 14:33     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  3:44       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 07/12] gdb, bfd: amd64 linux coredump support with shadow stack Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:15   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 11:54     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 08/12] gdb: Handle shadow stack pointer register unwinding for amd64 linux Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 14:29   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:11     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 16:13       ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 16:40         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:30   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 14:40     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 09/12] gdb, gdbarch: Enable inferior calls for shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:31   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-06 15:07     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  3:57       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-10  8:37         ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:04 ` [PATCH 10/12] gdb: Implement amd64 linux shadow stack support for inferior calls Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:34   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 11:55     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:05 ` [PATCH 11/12] gdb, gdbarch: Introduce gdbarch method to get the shadow stack pointer Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-28 20:27   ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 10:33     ` Luis Machado
2025-01-30 12:34       ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 13:42         ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-02-06  3:35   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-07 12:01     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-08  4:03       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-10  8:58         ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-11  1:53           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2025-02-15  3:45             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-16 10:45               ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-20  8:48                 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-21  5:10                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-21  9:41                     ` Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:05 ` [PATCH 12/12] gdb: Enable displaced stepping with shadow stack on amd64 linux Schimpe, Christina
2024-12-20 20:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  9:04     ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-02  9:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-02-06  3:37   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-01-16 14:01 ` [PING][PATCH 00/12] Add CET shadow stack support Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-27  9:44   ` [PING*2][PATCH " Schimpe, Christina
2025-01-30 15:01 ` [PATCH " Guinevere Larsen
2025-01-30 17:46   ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-04  3:57     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-02-04  9:40       ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-02-06  3:44         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann

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