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From: Daniel Berlin <dan@dberlin.org>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Let dwarf2 CFI's execute_stack_op be used outside of CFI
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:52:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203261250190.10498-100000@dberlin.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CA0B459.2050609@cygnus.com>

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Andrew Cagney wrote:

> [I'm sure Richard Stallman doesn't want to be dragged into such an 
> exchange, however]
> 
> Given there is currently a dispute over the origins of the file 
> dwarf2cfi.c, I'm removing it from GDB.

This doesn't make much sense, since of course, both of us have valid 
copyright assignments with the FSF.

> 
> Once that dispute has been resolved, the file can, again be accepted.
> 
> I should note that resolving this will likely take time - Jiri is 
> currently uncontactable, so I'm going to to have to try to follow this 
> up with his peers.

Ask Jan Hubicka (jh@suse.cz), as he asked me to send the code to Jiri.

> 
> sigh,
> Andrew
> 
> > I also added my name to the top of the file, since in reality, it's based 
> >> > > on code I sent Jiri.
> > 
> >> > 
> >> > I'd let Jiri make that decision.
> > 
> >> No.
> >> This is not his decision to make.
> >> A lot of it is my code, unchanged (you can check the x86-64.org 
> >> repository, for the huge change that replaced his code with mine)
> >> He never gave me any credit when he contributed it, for some reason, 
> >> probably because I never asked for it.
> >> I've still got the email I sent him when he asked for the code, and i'm 
> >> sure he'd be happy to confirm he used it.
> >> 
> >> >From a legal standpoint, while the copyright is transfered to the FSF, the 
> >> non-exclusive license they grant back to the contributors code should go 
> >> to me as well as Jiri, not just to Jiri.  This is part of of the contract of the 
> >> copyright assignment with the FSF.
> >> Thus, in order to ensure this is possible (not that i plan on using the 
> >> license for anything at the moment), i'm making sure it's clear that the 
> >> code contributed was not soley Jiri's.  
> >> So, that way, in the future, if I ever cared to license the code to 
> >> someone else, or do something with it, I can without someone asserting 
> >> it's only the FSF and Jiri's.
> > 
> > 
> > Please be aware, by the way, that if you don't accept the change to the 
> > top of the file, i'll be forced to go bug RMS/the FSF about it, as I'm 
> > sure they'd want the code correctly identified as well.
> > 
> > I'm not asking that I be given credit for something I didn't do.  Nor am I 
> > attempting to diminish in any way the size,quantity, or quality, of 
> > Jiri's contribution.  I am simply requesting that it be properly 
> > identified as a derivation of code I wrote.
> > 
> > It's imperative that the lineage of code be correctly identified (in fact, 
> > if GDB had a legal team, it's the first thing they'd do). In most cases, 
> > you can determine it from the cvs annotate/the changelogs. However, for 
> > new contributions, there is no history.  Since I never sent the code 
> > in question to gdb-patches, it also has no record there.
> > 
> > I only care because I've been getting an increasing number of requests 
> > from companies wanting to buy the source code to the C++ debugger I wrote 
> > to replace GDB ( Of course, it uses a variant of the code in question to 
> > read/execute frame ops).  I blanket refuse such requests in the hopes that 
> > they'll take the money and pay for GDB work instead, but it's something 
> > i'd consider if times ever  got really tough.  If there is one thing 
> > having three rabbits (rabbits  can't learn through negative reinforcement. 
> > i.e. reprimanding them after they have done something wrong does no good) 
> > as pets has taught me, it's that it's much easier to make sure a situation 
> > never happens, than it is to try to do something about it when it 
> > occurs.
> > 
> > It's not just me, either.  If Jiri/SuSE wanted to license the code to 
> > someone, he/they  might accidently sign something saying he was the sole 
> > author, which could make him/them liable, etc.
> > 
> > In short, i'm simply trying to eliminate something that could come back to 
> > bite me, or others, in the ass, later.
> > 
> > If you really want proof it's my code, I can happily provide this as well.
> > 
> > Since I know you get bogged down in mail, i'll give you till the end of 
> > the month before I go bug RMS and the FSF about this.
> > 
> > --Dan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-26 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-25 15:57 Daniel Berlin
2002-03-25 16:07 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-25 16:21   ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26  7:52     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26  9:49     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26  9:52       ` Daniel Berlin [this message]
2002-03-26 11:09       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 12:06         ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-03-26 17:59           ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-27  0:09             ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-03-27  6:24               ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-27  6:32                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-03-26 18:06       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-27 20:56         ` Richard Stallman
2002-03-26  9:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26  9:49   ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 11:59 ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-26 13:42 ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-26 14:43   ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 14:53     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26 15:26       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 17:09         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26 17:18           ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 18:12             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26 18:19               ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-26 18:26                 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-26 15:21     ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-26 19:17       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-28 13:12         ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-28 13:32           ` Daniel Berlin
2002-03-28 15:31             ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-29 17:06               ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-01 11:00                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-04-02  6:59                   ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02 11:28                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-04-02 11:31                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-02 11:46                         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02 11:57                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-02 13:12                             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02 13:15                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-02 11:47                       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02 18:55                       ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02 21:02                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-03 13:05                           ` Jim Blandy
2002-04-03 14:12                             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-03 12:58                         ` Stan Shebs
2002-04-03 18:59                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-04-02  6:50               ` Petr Sorfa
2002-04-02  6:56                 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-04-02  8:19                   ` [PATCH] Let dwarf2 CFI's execute_stack_op be used outside ofCFI Petr Sorfa
2002-04-04 12:24               ` [PATCH] Let dwarf2 CFI's execute_stack_op be used outside of CFI Daniel Berlin
2002-04-04 12:30                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-04-04 13:11                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-03-28 15:03           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-03-27  7:50   ` Petr Sorfa
2002-03-27  8:09     ` Daniel Berlin

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