From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>
Cc: Lancelot SIX <Lancelot.Six@amd.com>,
Tankut Baris Aktemur <tankutbaris.aktemur@amd.com>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gdb, amd-dbgapi-target: use PRIu64 and PRIu32
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 20:22:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ccbb7f9-3678-4b32-9077-902dacf07c2e@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5d88f07-7f6c-4f5b-9f37-517211570e16@palves.net>
On 2026-07-03 20:18, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 2026-07-03 19:15, Tom Tromey wrote:
>>>>>>> "Pedro" == Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net> writes:
>>
>> Pedro> Agreed. And it's also a portability hazard, like other printf
>> Pedro> formats, as you have to match the printf format to the type of
>> Pedro> the variable.
>>
>> Yeah, I meant to point this out as well.
>>
>> For pulongest you really only need to know whether the type is signed;
>> and we could easily fix that if we cared to.
>>
>> Pedro> (std::cout << ... << ... tends to be unreadable too IMHO, but we don't use that, thankfully).
>>
>> I thought about this for ui_file but meh. It's kind of i18n-unfriendly
>> as well.
>
> Yeah, like, very unfriendly, similar to how ui_out is unfriendly, with the message split
> over several calls.
>
> BTW, we should look into actually doing i18n, like send the .po files to a translation team.
> Maybe we can convince one of the new release managers to integrate the flow into the
> release process. :-)
>
> I think Ubuntu had GDB translations at some point. Haven't checked in a long while.
>
>>
>> Pedro> {fmt} would be better, but that's either a new external dependency, or
>> Pedro> bump to c++20 for std::format, or c++23 for widely available std::print.
>>
>> I looked into this but it is also i18n-unfriendly, since as far as I can
>> tell it requires you to either give up gettext or give up any sort of
>> format checking. For printf this isn't an issue because GCC understands
>> that _() is "transparent".
>>
>
> Ah, yeah, if you run the format string via gettext, that returns a runtime string, so
> we'd need to use std::vformat, which as you say, loses compile-time checking:
>
> std::vformat (_("Hello, {0}!"), std::make_format_args (name));
>
> But I think we could make it work, with a wrapper, which is what we'd do anyhow to
> work with ui_file. But we make the wrapper a template, which itself does the
> format checking at compile time. Like:
>
> template<typename... Args>
> void
> gdb_format (std::format_string<Args...> f, Args&&... args)
> {
> std::string s
> = std::vformat (gettext (f.get ()), std::make_format_args (args...));
> gdb_stdout->puts (s.c_str ());
> }
>
> then with:
>
> gdb_printf ("stopped at {}\n", addr);
To be clear, I meant:
gdb_format ("stopped at {}\n", addr);
Pedro Alves
>
> the literal "stopped at {}\n" gets bound to the format_string<Args...> parameter.
> format_string's ctor parses the literal and checks placeholders against Args..., at compile
> time, and a mismatch results in a compile error. If that compiles successfully, then we
> call gettext and use std::vformat without the checking, which we no longer need as it's
> already validated when we get there.
>
> Note, written in email client, completely untested.
>
>> Also of course switching to fmt would be a colossal effort.
> No doubt. Could be incremental, though.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-03 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-01 14:28 Tankut Baris Aktemur
2026-07-01 15:16 ` Lancelot SIX
2026-07-01 16:56 ` Aktemur, Baris
2026-07-02 20:15 ` Tom Tromey
2026-07-03 12:59 ` Simon Marchi
2026-07-03 13:47 ` Pedro Alves
2026-07-03 18:15 ` Tom Tromey
2026-07-03 19:18 ` Pedro Alves
2026-07-03 19:22 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2026-07-03 11:03 ` [PATCH v2] gdb, amd-dbgapi-target: use pulongest to print id handles Tankut Baris Aktemur
2026-07-03 11:22 ` Lancelot SIX
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