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From: Yao Qi <yao@codesourcery.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>, <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	Eli Zaretskii	<eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unbuffer stdout and stderr on windows
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:34:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <520E1C34.2000907@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520E1109.7000304@redhat.com>

On 08/16/2013 07:46 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> However, the Windows runtime, in its infinite wisdom, makes stderr
> fully buffered if connected to a pipe.
>
> So all this makes me very much question the desire to detect
> if a native Win32 GDB is running under Cygwin.
>
> IMO, stderr should_always_  be forced to unbuffered.

 From this long discussion, people agree that stderr should be unbuffered.

>
> I can't really imagine that leaving stdout fully buffered to
> ever be good (which the cygwin detection seems to want to preserve),
> even for frontends, given GDB is an interactive program, and even
> MI is text/line based.
>
> So I think the "in cygwin" detection is really not necessary
> or desirable, and this patch should go back to its original form:

However, we didn't have an agreement on what to set for stdout.  As you 
posted above, on Win32, stdout can be either full buffered or 
non-buffered.  If we change stdout to non-buffered, there are two 
concerns, 1) GDB will slow down, 2) cause troubles to front-end, like Emacs.

Is it useful to reduce the concerns by measuring the slow down and 
testing patched GDB under Emacs?

-- 
Yao (齐尧)


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-16 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22  3:07 Yao Qi
2013-07-22 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-23  6:35   ` Yao Qi
2013-07-23 17:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:26       ` Christopher Faylor
2013-07-29 19:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:51           ` Pedro Alves
2013-07-31  3:40             ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-12 21:11               ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-13 17:28                 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-13 18:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-14  0:05                   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-15 17:36                   ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 17:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 17:59                       ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 18:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 11:46                         ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 12:34                           ` Yao Qi [this message]
2013-08-16 13:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:37                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:21                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:10                                     ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:24                                       ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:43                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 16:41                                           ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-16 15:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-22  6:14                                       ` Yao Qi
2013-08-22 14:18                                         ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-23  2:20                                           ` Yao Qi
2013-08-23 13:38                                             ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-27 20:39                                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28  7:23                                               ` Yao Qi
2013-08-28  9:39                                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28 12:25                                                   ` Yao Qi
2013-08-16 13:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:30                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 13:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:13                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:05                                     ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:30         ` Christopher Faylor

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