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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org,	yao@codesourcery.com,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unbuffer stdout and stderr on windows
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130812211105.GA11128@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130731034045.GA5565@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>

> We had a somewhat heated debate in the cygwin list about using the
> techniques in winpty and eventually abandoned the idea because the way
> things like winpty create consoles is not foolproof.  Since it relies on
> polling, it is theoretically possible to lose data.
> 
> I'll bet that, in practice you'd never see any data loss, though.
> And, from that observation, you can see which side of the argument
> I was on.  :-)

FWIW, many frontends also implements communication with GDB using
pipes on Windows, and running MinGW-gdb inside cygwin window/shell
is just a very very common practice, regardless of whether officially
supported or not. How does Emacs do, for instance? IIRC when I looked
at the code, that's what it did.

Having the stdout/stderr output mixed up is very confusing and breaks
testing as well, so we applied the same approach as Yao's at AdaCore.
In the many many years that we've used this approach, no one ever
complained to us about standard I/O performance.

For completeness, our calls to setvbuf are inserted about 10 lines
later, after gdb_stdout/gdb_stderr are set up.

-- 
Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22  3:07 Yao Qi
2013-07-22 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-23  6:35   ` Yao Qi
2013-07-23 17:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:26       ` Christopher Faylor
2013-07-29 19:30         ` Christopher Faylor
2013-07-29 19:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:51           ` Pedro Alves
2013-07-31  3:40             ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-12 21:11               ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2013-08-13 17:28                 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-13 18:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-14  0:05                   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-15 17:36                   ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 17:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 17:59                       ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 18:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 11:46                         ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 12:34                           ` Yao Qi
2013-08-16 13:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:37                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:03                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:21                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:10                                     ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:24                                       ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:43                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 16:41                                           ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-16 15:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-22  6:14                                       ` Yao Qi
2013-08-22 14:18                                         ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-23  2:20                                           ` Yao Qi
2013-08-23 13:38                                             ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-27 20:39                                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28  7:23                                               ` Yao Qi
2013-08-28  9:39                                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28 12:25                                                   ` Yao Qi
2013-08-16 13:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:30                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 13:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:13                                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:05                                     ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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