From: Christopher Faylor <cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@sourceware.org>
To: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Yao Qi <yao@codesourcery.com>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unbuffer stdout and stderr on windows
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:26:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130729192559.GA5348@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wqohw4ee.fsf@gnu.org>
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 08:51:53PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:34:32 +0800
>> From: Yao Qi <yao@codesourcery.com>
>> CC: <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
>>
>> On 07/22/2013 11:40 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > This is wrong, stdout should be line-buffered by default.
>> >
>>
>> stdout is line-buffered if it can be detected to connect to an
>> interactive device, otherwise it is fully buffered. Cygwin emulates pty
>> with pipes, and native win32 apps blindly assume all pipes are
>> non-interactive.
>
>Sorry, I was unclear: I meant that stdout should be line-buffered, not
>unbuffered, when it is connected to a console (which is the default).
>I was under the impression that you were changing stdout to be
>unbuffered even in that default case, i.e. even when stdout is
>connected to a console. If that's not so, i.e. if you were changing
>the buffering only when stdout is not connected to a console, I
>apologize for my misunderstanding.
>
>> > Also, this punishes batch mode with stdout redirected to a file: its
>> > stdout buffering (and perhaps also that of stderr, although that's
>> > less important) will now always be line-buffered, i.e. less efficient.
>>
>> Yeah, this patch hurts the performance, but gets the outputs in the
>> correct order, so that testsuite can be run to get a reasonable test result.
>
>I don't think it's right to penalize users for the benefit of the test
>suite.
>
>> > Is it possible to detect the "Cygwin ssh session", whatever that
>> > means, and only do this then? I don't think it's right to change
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am unable to find a heuristics to tell "GDB is in
>> cygwin session". There are some differences on env variables between
>> cygwin and Windows cmd.exe console, but I am afraid that they are not
>> reliable.
>
>Then how about introducing a special option which will cause the
>buffering to be what you want? The test suite could use that option,
>and the other users will not suffer any penalty.
>
>> > behavior of a native w32 GDB just because it misbehaves when mixed
>>
>> This patch is to change the buffered output to unbuffered, so the
>> behaviour of GDB is not changed, IMO.
>
>Of course it's changed: buffering is user-visible behavior.
>
>> In the last resort, we may add an option "--cygwin-tty"
>
>I think this is the best alternative.
>
>> which I don't really like.
>
>Why not?
Note that this is only a problem for non-Cygwin versions of gdb. It
sounds like someone is using mingw-built versions of gdb in a cygwin
pty session. This obviously wouldn't be something that Cygwin itself
would need.
How about a "--buffer-output" option instead, which defaults to true?
cgf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-29 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-22 3:07 Yao Qi
2013-07-22 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-23 6:35 ` Yao Qi
2013-07-23 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:26 ` Christopher Faylor [this message]
2013-07-29 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:51 ` Pedro Alves
2013-07-31 3:40 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-12 21:11 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-13 17:28 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-13 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-14 0:05 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-15 17:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-15 17:59 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-15 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 11:46 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 12:34 ` Yao Qi
2013-08-16 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:37 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:21 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:10 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:24 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 16:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2013-08-16 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-22 6:14 ` Yao Qi
2013-08-22 14:18 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-23 2:20 ` Yao Qi
2013-08-23 13:38 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-08-27 20:39 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28 7:23 ` Yao Qi
2013-08-28 9:39 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-28 12:25 ` Yao Qi
2013-08-16 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 13:30 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 14:13 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-16 15:05 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-29 19:30 ` Christopher Faylor
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