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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: mbilal@codesourcery.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
	       jan.kratochvil@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] PR gdb/15224 , Change the default set history filename to ~/.gdb_history.
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 19:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <519D1EE6.10404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a9nmu8l0.fsf@gnu.org>

On 05/22/2013 08:18 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Scripts do have a means get the previous behavior.  Simply adding
>> this to .gdbinit:
> 
> But .gdbinit in the current directory is no longer read by default, so
> I can't, not without restoring the old behavior, which does involve
> using a command that will cause old GDB's to barf.
> 
>> The reasoning for changing the default is that we (Pedro/Jan/Muhammad)
>> believe enabling history by default is a better default that having it
>> disabled by default, as currently.
> 
> Another gratuitous incompatibility.

Sorry, but simply calling changes gratuitous when I've made an
effort to explain why I believe they're good doesn't help.  :-/

The idea is that enabling the feature by default will expose
it to more users, who will benefit from it, most (educated-guessing
here, of course) not being aware GDB presently can already use
history from previous sessions.

> 
>> Couple the fact that ".gdb_history"
>> is a dot/hidden file, with enabling history saving by default, and users
>> could end up with their filesystem littered with random hidden .gdb_history
>> files.  I think GDB shouldn't do that by default.  So in order to enable
>> history saving by default, we believe we should default to ~/.gdb_history
>> instead first.  bash also defaults to saving history under $HOME, and I'd
>> think most other interactive programs/shell do so too.  So it feels like
>> GDB is the odd one out here.
> 
> Being the odd one out is not a reason good enough to change behavior
> that was the default for a long time.

The default has been to not save the history at all.

When weighing the pros and cons, I believe the pros outweigh the cons.

That's just my opinion, and I've just tried to clarify why I have it.

-- 
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-06  9:39 [PATCH 0/7] PR gdb/15224 should "set history save on" by default mbilal
2013-05-06  9:40 ` [PATCH 1/7] " mbilal
2013-05-06  9:42   ` [PATCH 2/7] " mbilal
2013-05-06  9:43   ` [PATCH 3/7] " mbilal
     [not found]     ` <51877BC6.6080007@codesourcery.com>
2013-05-06  9:47       ` [PATCH 4/7] " mbilal
2013-05-07  9:40         ` Abid, Hafiz
2013-05-08 17:14         ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-06  9:48       ` [PATCH 5/7] " mbilal
2013-05-08  8:24         ` mbilal
2013-05-15 11:08           ` [PATCH 5/7] PR gdb/15224 , Change the default set history filename to ~/.gdb_history mbilal
2013-05-15 11:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 12:07             ` mbilal
2013-05-15 13:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-22 17:24                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-22 17:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-22 18:08                     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-22 19:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-22 19:39                         ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2013-08-01 12:43                           ` Muhammad Bilal
2013-08-01 15:41                           ` Tom Tromey
2013-08-01 22:17                             ` Doug Evans
2013-05-22 12:02             ` mbilal
2013-05-08 17:05         ` [PATCH 5/7] PR gdb/15224 should "set history save on" by default Pedro Alves
2013-05-06  9:49       ` [PATCH 6/7] " mbilal
2013-05-06  9:51       ` [PATCH 7/7] " mbilal
2013-05-07 10:17         ` Abid, Hafiz
2013-05-08 17:08           ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-08  8:25         ` mbilal
2013-05-08 16:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-08 17:18           ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-08  8:23       ` [PATCH 4/7] " mbilal
2013-05-09 11:12         ` mbilal
2013-05-09 12:05           ` Pedro Alves
     [not found]         ` <51936853.7050106@codesourcery.com>
     [not found]           ` <51936944.80108@codesourcery.com>
2013-05-15 10:56             ` [PATCH 4/7] Disable history saving for testsuit mbilal
2013-05-22 12:02               ` mbilal
2013-05-22 17:27               ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-08  8:23     ` [PATCH 3/7] PR gdb/15224 should "set history save on" by default mbilal
2013-05-08 16:24     ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-06 11:26   ` [PATCH 1/7] " Pedro Alves
     [not found]   ` <5188AA15.5010904@codesourcery.com>
2013-05-07  7:19     ` [PATCH 1/7] PR gdb/15224 "set history filename" to by immediately converted to absolute path mbilal
2013-05-07  8:39       ` Pedro Alves
     [not found]     ` <5188AC27.1050407@codesourcery.com>
2013-05-07  7:26       ` [PATCH 2/7] PR gdb/15224 fix for Unify interactivity tests to use input_from_terminal_p mbilal
2013-05-08  8:22         ` mbilal
2013-05-08 16:21           ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-09 11:08           ` mbilal
2013-05-09 11:32             ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-07 12:44     ` [PATCH 1/7] PR gdb/15224 "set history filename" to by immediately converted to absolute path mbilal
2013-05-08  8:22       ` mbilal
     [not found]         ` <519366E2.90105@codesourcery.com>
2013-05-15 10:46           ` mbilal
2013-05-22 17:51             ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-22 12:04           ` mbilal
2013-05-08 15:46       ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-08 17:25         ` Pedro Alves
2013-05-07 10:01 ` [PATCH 0/7] PR gdb/15224 should "set history save on" by default Abid, Hafiz
2013-08-06 16:35 ` Jan Kratochvil

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