From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Carlton <david.carlton@sun.com>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Maintainer policy for GDB
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:17:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <u8xvezlsu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yf27jazf678.fsf@kealia.sfbay.sun.com> (message from David Carlton on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:40:59 -0800)
> Cc: David Carlton <David.Carlton@sun.com>
> From: David Carlton <david.carlton@sun.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:40:59 -0800
>
> > In other words (and sorry for over-simplification), you ask me to
> > assume that everybody else is nice and reasonable, and that, more
> > often than not, I will succeed in talking them into accepting my
> > opinions.
>
> I think you will on the matter of documentation, yes. I'm not so sure
> about djgpp - there, I suspect people will still listen to you, but
> there's probably more scope for reasonable people to disagree.
Documentation was just an example, let's not read too much into it.
What I really meant is code, since we are all programmers and thus
care much more about code than about docs.
> My first answer is "you could be wrong about whether a patch is a good
> one or not". Personally, I would (strongly) prefer not to adopt a
> conflict resolution mechanism where we designate certain people as
> always winning arguments about specific areas of GDB.
If we designate people who deserve that, why not? Are you saying that
you dislike or don't believe in leadership as a matter of principle?
> So I'm pretty leery about generalizing from that example. (Which is,
> admittedly, unfair of me, given that I started this subthread exactly
> by asking you to talk more about that example!)
Well, right: we must generalize it, otherwise every example will not
teach us anything about the general issue.
> I have two different responses to this.
>
> 1) We could go along with that, and not ask anybody to take
> responsibility: we could have a notion of authorized committer
> without any notion of responsible committer. That wouldn't bother
> me at all; the proposal seems slightly too complex for me as-is, so
> I wouldn't mind simplifying it in that way.
>
> 2) It's not obvious to me that asking people to be responsible is
> unfair. And, as long as people have the right to say "no, I don't
> want to be responsible" and remain authorized to commit patches,
> it's also not obvious to me that it's urgent for us to figure out
> whether or not it's fair. Why not leave it up to people to decide
> if they want to take responsibility without being given any
> additional authority in return?
These both boil down to not having anyone responsible. I don't think
we should go as far as that.
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2005-11-17 4:48 Daniel Jacobowitz
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2005-11-17 6:44 ` Fwd: " Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 14:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 17:07 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:38 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 21:10 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:33 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:46 ` Wu Zhou
2005-11-18 11:09 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 11:59 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 18:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-18 18:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 22:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-19 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:51 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 22:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-19 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-21 7:52 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-21 22:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:46 ` David Carlton
2005-11-19 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 1:28 ` David Carlton
2005-11-23 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 4:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 20:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 8:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-25 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 17:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 19:53 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 21:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 21:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 23:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 23:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-26 0:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-26 9:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 15:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-28 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 16:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 7:28 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-26 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 16:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 20:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-24 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 2:05 ` David Carlton
2005-11-24 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-11-18 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 17:53 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-18 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 19:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:02 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-19 2:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 17:05 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:21 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:23 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:25 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 5:28 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-20 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 21:55 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-20 22:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 19:50 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:52 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-18 21:51 ` David Carlton
2005-11-27 4:50 Michael Snyder
2005-11-27 4:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 5:00 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-27 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 19:18 ` Christopher Faylor
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