From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Maintainer policy for GDB
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:32:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051118213233.GA18853@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uzmo1hdd3.fsf@gnu.org>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:09:44PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > If you are "responsible" for patch review in a specific area, it means
> > that you have promised that you will review all patches in that area
> > in a reasonably timely fashion.
> >
> > If you are "authorized" to commit patches in a specific area, it means
> > that you can commit patches without anybody else's approval.
>
> Thanks, I think I understand now. What fooled me was that Daniel said
> "authority to review patches", not "authority to commit patches". And
> since almost anyone can comment on a patch posted to gdb-patches, it
> wasn't clear what kind of authority we were talking about.
Ahh! Thanks, that's very helpful feedback. I've been using "review"
sloppily when I really mean "approve and apply, or reject".
> > At least in the U.S., anybody is "authorized" to make a citizen's
> > arrest if they see a crime being committted. But only the police are
> > "responsible" for doing so. If a civilian sees a crime being
> > committed and does nothing, nothing happens to the civilian. If a
> > policeman sees a crime being committed and does nothing, he gets fired
> > from his job.
>
> But, unless I'm mistaken, Daniel didn't suggest to ``fire'' the
> responsible person(s) in our case, did he? So the analogy is not
> really full; in particular, what kind of responsibility is that if you
> aren't going to be fired for failing to do that for which you are
> responsible?
You are mistaken. It's not a zero-tolerance policy, of course, but if
you are listed as responsible and not doing your job, the global
maintainers or SC should address it:
Some maintainers are listed as responsible for patch review in
particular areas. If a maintainer is not currently able or willing to
review patches, please contact the global maintainers or the steering
committee, who will resolve the situation and find a replacement or
assistant if necessary.
This is one of the big differences that having clearly listed
responsibility gives us. We don't have to take away their commit
access just to resolve this particular problem.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-17 4:48 Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 21:10 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:33 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:46 ` Wu Zhou
2005-11-18 11:09 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 11:59 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 18:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-18 18:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 22:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-19 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:51 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 22:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-19 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-21 7:52 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-21 22:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:46 ` David Carlton
2005-11-19 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 1:28 ` David Carlton
2005-11-23 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 4:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 20:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 8:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-25 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 17:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 19:53 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 21:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 21:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 23:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 23:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-26 0:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-26 9:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 15:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-28 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 16:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 7:28 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-26 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 16:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 20:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-24 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 2:05 ` David Carlton
2005-11-24 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2005-11-18 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <8f2776cb0511162240q6f550008udda9803b5253fd88@mail.gmail.com>
2005-11-17 6:44 ` Fwd: " Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 14:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 17:07 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:38 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 17:53 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-18 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 19:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:02 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-19 2:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 17:05 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:21 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:23 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:25 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 5:28 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-20 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 21:55 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-20 22:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 19:50 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:52 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-18 21:51 ` David Carlton
2005-11-27 4:50 Michael Snyder
2005-11-27 4:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 5:00 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-27 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 19:18 ` Christopher Faylor
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