From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: david.carlton@sun.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Maintainer policy for GDB
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:36:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051124171814.GI1635@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ubr0azm2f.fsf@gnu.org>
> That's the same thing: if someone can have authority without
> responsibility, then the one who gets responsibility doesn't get any
> unique authority to go with that.
What I don't understand is why this is necessary.
> It's not only about time. It's about being responsible: that's a
> burden that should not go unnoticed. The usual way to appreciate that
> burden is to grant some exclusive rights. This is how any effective
> organization works; if we want our small collective to be an effective
> organization, we shouldn't deprive people who are willing to donate
> more of some small incentive to do so.
I disagree. There can be many reasons why you accept a burden.
> > Take the release management role: It doesn't give me any authority
> > nor power.
>
> Sure, it does: no one can release GDB except you. The fact that we
> didn't have a release manager is the sole most important reason why
> there was no GDB release for quite some time.
But I'm just the scribe. I translate the intent of the GDB developers
into a release when deemed appropriate by the group, not when I decide.
The scribe doesn't decide what gets written.
> > If tomorrow the maintainers send a message and say: let's create a
> > new release, I'll just do it.
>
> I doubt that very much. I'm sure you will see if there are any
> outstanding issues, and you will ask others what they think, then make
> your judgement.
This discussion is sliding a bit outside of scope towards the role of
RM. But I consider the decision of making a release a group decision.
If the group decides to make a release regardless of my objections,
I will create that release.
--
Joel
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2005-11-17 4:48 Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <8f2776cb0511162240q6f550008udda9803b5253fd88@mail.gmail.com>
2005-11-17 6:44 ` Fwd: " Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 14:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-17 17:07 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:38 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 21:10 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 3:33 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 3:46 ` Wu Zhou
2005-11-18 11:09 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 11:59 ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-18 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 18:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-18 18:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 22:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-19 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:51 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-18 22:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 0:34 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-19 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-21 7:52 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-21 22:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 22:46 ` David Carlton
2005-11-19 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 1:28 ` David Carlton
2005-11-23 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-24 4:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 20:36 ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2005-11-24 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 3:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 8:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-25 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 17:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 19:53 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-25 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 21:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 21:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 23:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 23:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-26 0:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-26 9:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 15:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-28 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-25 16:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-25 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 7:28 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-26 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-26 16:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 20:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-24 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-24 2:05 ` David Carlton
2005-11-24 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 21:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 15:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 17:53 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-18 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-18 19:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:02 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-11-19 2:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 10:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 17:05 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:21 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:23 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:25 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-19 22:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 22:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 5:28 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-20 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-20 21:55 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-11-20 22:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-18 19:50 ` Joel Brobecker
2005-11-18 21:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-17 23:52 ` Mark Kettenis
2005-11-18 21:51 ` David Carlton
2005-11-27 4:50 Michael Snyder
2005-11-27 4:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 5:00 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-11-27 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-27 19:18 ` Christopher Faylor
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