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From: Jim Blandy <jimb@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: GDB support for thread-local storage
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <np660ctns8.fsf@zwingli.cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D1282DD.7000508@cygnus.com>


Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com> writes:
> > For STABS, we can simply invent a new symbol type, whose value is the
> > offset within the thread-local storage block for the current thread
> > for the module containing the stab.  I haven't written up a real
> > proposal for STABS yet.
> > On Linux, Ulrich Drepper has added the following function to
> > libthread_db:
> 
> Has solaris, or even MS, done anything in this area?  The
> LOC_THREAD_LOCAL_STATIC must have come from somewhere, dig dig, you
> may want to look at what HP/UX is getting up to.

I didn't see anything in the Solaris "Stabs Interface Manual"
(distributed with the Solaris toolchain, not publicly) about it.

HP implements something much simpler.  It doesn't deal with
thread-local storage in PIC code; the initialization image is laid out
completely at static link time.  It's thread-local storage in
dynamically loaded libraries that introduces all the hair.

> > If you're not convinced it should be a target method, consider this:
> > Remember that libthread_db isn't clean for cross-debugging.  It's a
> > target library.  So at the moment, there are cases where gdbserver
> > loads and uses libthread_db, not GDB itself.  In those cases, the
> > tls_get_addr request needs to be sent across the network connection to
> > gdbserver, td_thr_tls_get_addr needs to be invoked there, and the
> > answer needs to be sent back.  By making tls_get_addr a target method,
> > it's easy for the remote protocol layer to provide its own definition
> > of the method and send a packet across for the request.
> 
> Similar to this, both SOFTWARE_SINGLESTEP and hardware breakpoints are
> ment to be implemented with support from both the target vector and
> the architecture vector.  By doing that, a sequence like:
> 
> 	can target single step?
> 	  yes, step target
> 	else
> 	  use architecture to software singlestep target
> 
> can be implemented (in both cases it isn't so it can't, ulgh).

Yes, I remember you saying this before; I was trying to follow your
lead here.

> However, in the case of the above, is the architecture method needed?
> Given that th only thing implementing this will be the above GNU/Linux
> thread-db library, and GDB's linux thread code will know to call that
> directly.

I don't think that's so.  As I say, Uli is pretty much just following
what the IA-64 and SPARC people have done for their ABI's, and
introducing a new scheme for the IA-32.  So we should expect this
feature to crop up on other platforms.

As far as the gdbarch method is concerned, I dunno.  It's true that
nobody is actually going to define the method at the moment.  But I
don't see why embedded ABI's wouldn't want to support __thread; the
whole point is that __thread can be faster and have less overhead than
the pthreads alternative, which (it seems to me) would make it very
attractive to the embedded world.  So I would expect the gdbarch
method to be used for the first embedded ABI that supports __thread.

Should we put off adding the gdbarch method until someone is actually
going to define it?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-21 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-19  9:00 Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 10:08 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 12:20   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 13:12     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 13:40       ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-20 18:35 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-20 18:48   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 10:18     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 10:32       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:08         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:18           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:54             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 14:03               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 14:46                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 14:55                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:31                     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 22:59                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-22  8:22                         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-24  7:53                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 16:14                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 22:57                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:37                         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:20           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:37             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 23:00               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 12:34   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 12:49   ` Jim Blandy [this message]
2002-06-21 18:10     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 20:24       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 21:09         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  8:31           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:41   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 15:59     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 16:08   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  1:04     ` unsuscribe phi
     [not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25  1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:31     ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:53         ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  9:11             ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  9:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27  8:13                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19  9:05                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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