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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Jim Blandy <jimb@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: GDB support for thread-local storage
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020622055716.GA7243@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nphejwql5q.fsf@zwingli.cygnus.com>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:14:41PM -0500, Jim Blandy wrote:
> 
> One of the reasons I really like having libthread_db handle TLS
> resolution is that the alternative is to do an inferior function call
> when you reference a variable.  Check out Uli's document, at the
> pointer I gave --- even the compiler will sometimes have to generate a
> call to __tls_get_addr to find a __thread variable's address.
> 
> And GDB shouldn't cache this base address while the inferior runs,
> either --- remember the "GDB must never lie" rule.  Evaluating `x' in
> GDB had better reference the same storage that it would if the compiler
> evaluated `x' at the point where the program is stopped.
> 
> So if we have trouble keeping the Insight variable window up-to-date
> now...
> 
> Anyway, in that context, having libthread_db handle it all in-process
> seems really nice.

Well, libthread_db is still pretty expensive.  It generally does a
substantial amount of memory access to the inferior.  Cheaper than a
function call, but not so much.

Part of that is the ridiculous way we use it and abuse the thread_alive
checks at every opportunity.  If you benchmark some operations on
libthread_db/native gdb, and gdb/local gdbserver (which uses thread_db,
but makes some documented assumptions about the threading model, and
also supports partial stops which I haven't worked out how to do in GDB
proper) you'll see that the overhead of the remote protocol is
sometimes less than the overhead of native thread_db.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-22  5:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-19  9:00 Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 10:08 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 12:20   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 13:12     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 13:40       ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-20 18:35 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-20 18:48   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 10:18     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 10:32       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:08         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:18           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:54             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 14:03               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 14:46                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 14:55                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:31                     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 22:59                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-22  8:22                         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-24  7:53                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 16:14                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 22:57                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-06-26 12:37                         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:20           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:37             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 23:00               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 12:34   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 12:49   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 18:10     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 20:24       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 21:09         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  8:31           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:41   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 15:59     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 16:08   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  1:04     ` unsuscribe phi
     [not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25  1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:31     ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:53         ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  9:11             ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  9:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27  8:13                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19  9:05                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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