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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
Cc: Jim Blandy <jimb@redhat.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: GDB support for thread-local storage
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020622055926.GB7243@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D13A93D.50409@cygnus.com>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:31:25PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> 
> >>> I'd call the libthread_db
> >>>approach broken for this purpose (a little outside its design scope
> >>>perhaps).
> >
> >>
> >>I think it reflects limitations of the current libthread-db interface 
> >>rather than a broken approach.
> >
> >
> >I disagree... the concept of having a "libthread_db" with an interface
> >involves it being a target library, part of the system.  Unless you
> >change its "interface" to be a data file rather than code, it requires
> >access to a target in order to interpret target data.  That's my whole
> >objection to it.
> 
> Sorry, I'm lost here.
> 
> Say, instead of a libthread_db, we had gdb/libthread-db.c which could be 
> compiled on all systems.  It would have some sort of procedural 
> interface, and would grub around in target data to find thread X lwp 
> maps.  However, it could be written in a way that was host architecture 
> netural.

Sure.  But the design of libthread_db says, "I am 100% coupled to the
private structure of this thread implementation.  I must match its
version exactly if you want predictable results.  My details can change
in minor revisions or even more frequently."  That's not part of the
implementation; it's more like the purpose of the design.  It is a
layer between implementation-specific details with no guaranteed
structure and a structured client interface.

Without imposing structure on that data, I don't think it'll ever be
possible to have a gdb/libthread-db.c.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-22  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-19  9:00 Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 10:08 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 12:20   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 13:12     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 13:40       ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-20 18:35 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-20 18:48   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 10:18     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 10:32       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:08         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:18           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:54             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 14:03               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 14:46                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 14:55                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:31                     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 22:59                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-06-22  8:22                         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-24  7:53                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 16:14                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 22:57                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:37                         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:20           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:37             ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 23:00               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 12:34   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 12:49   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 18:10     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 20:24       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 21:09         ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  8:31           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:41   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 15:59     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 16:08   ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22  1:04     ` unsuscribe phi
     [not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25  1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:05   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:31     ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:42       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  8:53         ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  8:56           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25  9:11             ` James Cownie
2002-06-25  9:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45                 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57                     ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27  8:13                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19  9:05                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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