From: Jim Blandy <jimb@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: GDB support for thread-local storage
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:37:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <np1yat6dbz.fsf@zwingli.cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020622055716.GA7243@nevyn.them.org>
Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:14:41PM -0500, Jim Blandy wrote:
> >
> > One of the reasons I really like having libthread_db handle TLS
> > resolution is that the alternative is to do an inferior function call
> > when you reference a variable. Check out Uli's document, at the
> > pointer I gave --- even the compiler will sometimes have to generate a
> > call to __tls_get_addr to find a __thread variable's address.
> >
> > And GDB shouldn't cache this base address while the inferior runs,
> > either --- remember the "GDB must never lie" rule. Evaluating `x' in
> > GDB had better reference the same storage that it would if the compiler
> > evaluated `x' at the point where the program is stopped.
> >
> > So if we have trouble keeping the Insight variable window up-to-date
> > now...
> >
> > Anyway, in that context, having libthread_db handle it all in-process
> > seems really nice.
>
> Well, libthread_db is still pretty expensive. It generally does a
> substantial amount of memory access to the inferior. Cheaper than a
> function call, but not so much.
Well, td_thr_tls_get_addr only makes two calls to ps_pdread. The
first one is a big one, unfortunately --- it reads a pretty large
structure.
> Part of that is the ridiculous way we use it and abuse the thread_alive
> checks at every opportunity. If you benchmark some operations on
> libthread_db/native gdb, and gdb/local gdbserver (which uses thread_db,
> but makes some documented assumptions about the threading model, and
> also supports partial stops which I haven't worked out how to do in GDB
> proper) you'll see that the overhead of the remote protocol is
> sometimes less than the overhead of native thread_db.
It seems to me that the right place to handle this is in
proc-service.c, or in the layers below that --- those layers may know
the inferior is stopped, and be able to cache memory contents, etc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-26 19:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-19 9:00 Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 10:08 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 12:20 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-19 13:12 ` Daniel Berlin
2002-06-19 13:40 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-20 18:35 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-20 18:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 10:18 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 10:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:08 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 13:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 13:54 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 14:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 14:46 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 14:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 22:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-22 8:22 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-24 7:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 16:14 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 22:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:37 ` Jim Blandy [this message]
2002-06-21 13:20 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 15:37 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 23:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-21 12:34 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 12:49 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 18:10 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 20:24 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 21:09 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22 8:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 15:41 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-21 15:59 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-21 16:08 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-22 1:04 ` unsuscribe phi
[not found] <1024952640.13693.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-06-25 1:48 ` GDB support for thread-local storage James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:31 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 8:53 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 8:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 9:11 ` James Cownie
2002-06-25 9:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-25 10:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-25 10:02 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-06-26 12:45 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-26 19:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-06-26 21:57 ` Jim Blandy
2002-06-27 8:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19 9:05 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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