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From: Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GIT and CVS
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:52:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d3dzoccj.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201110141022.p9EAMrUN030848@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (Mark	Kettenis's message of "Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:22:53 +0200 (CEST)")

Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl> writes:

>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:13:31 +0200
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> 
>> > > If we are going to switch to a dVCS, git is not the only choice.  I
>> > > like bzr better; bzr is a GNU project, unlike git.
>> > 
>> > Given your question above, does bzr fulfill the roles any better than
>> > GIT?
>> 
>> Yes, definitely.  For starters, it works on Posix and Windows
>> platforms alike.  Emacs uses bzr as its VCS for the last 2 years or
>> so.
>
> I'm a git hater.  And the reason I hate GIT is because of the
> development model it enforces.  It doesn't match the way I work.  My
> workflow looks more or less as follows:
>
> $ cvs update
> (make some changes)

git pull will fetch and merge changes.

> ...
> (come back a couple of days later)
> $ cvs update
> (merge conflicts, make some more changes)
> ...

Same as above.

> $ cvs update
> (test changes, write changelog, send diff for review)
> ...

No different, if this is how you choose to use GIT.

> $ cvs update
> (test changes again, fixup changelog)

No difference.

> $ cvs commit

git commit

then

git push

> With lots of "cvs diff" invocations in between to check my changes and
> remind myself what I'm working on.

I think this is where GIT would benefit most.  This is something that
GIT, imo, does far faster, and far better than CVS.

> I've used SVN, Mercurial and all of those VCSes have commands that are
> close enough to CVS that they've allowed me to keep the same workflow
> and didn't require me to look at their documentation for every command
> I run. 

But I don't see how your workflow changes, at all.  You can use GIT with
a CVS-like workflow just fine.

>  With GIT there's several additional commands I have to run,
> and I have to commit half-finished work, which I can't bring myself to
> do.  (I've tried git stash, but it didn't seem to support my
> development style, at least "unstashing" didn't "just work" when I did
> a git fetch in between).

Nope, you don't have to commit half finished work at all.  Commit it if
you want, or just keep it local as with CVS.

> How does bzr compare here?  Is it close enough to CVS that there is a
> 1:1 mapping of commands with perhaps an additional command to "push"
> changes upstream?

I don't know.  My one brief experience with bzr while checking out emacs
was painfully slow.

Cheers,

Phil


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-14 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-13 19:37 Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 20:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 20:55   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:33     ` DJ Delorie
2011-10-13 21:44       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:43     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 21:51       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:25           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:41             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:44             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 10:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:19         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:45           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 23:37             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  5:56               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:51                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 23:03       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:51         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  6:01           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:52             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  7:01               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  7:13                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 15:39                 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 15:49                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:51     ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 21:59       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 22:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14  5:03           ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14  8:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:14       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:56         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14  6:04           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:20   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14  8:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 10:23       ` Mark Kettenis
2011-10-14 10:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:09           ` Li, Rongsheng
2011-10-14 12:54         ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 13:07           ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 14:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:32             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 15:05             ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:52         ` Phil Muldoon [this message]
     [not found]           ` <83zkh3k419.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-10-14 15:47             ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 16:12             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:20             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 17:06                 ` Matt Rice
2011-10-14 17:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-11 21:00         ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-12  8:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-12 15:30             ` Steinar Bang
2011-10-14  5:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14 15:38   ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 12:36 ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 16:59     ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:58   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Paul_Koning
2011-10-16 15:04       ` Ralf Corsepius
2011-10-14 16:10     ` André Pönitz
2011-11-11 22:50 ` Pedro Larroy
2011-11-12  8:28   ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13  0:05     ` John Hein
2011-11-15 15:02   ` Tom Tromey
2011-11-16 16:59     ` Christopher Faylor

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