From: Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GIT and CVS
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:52:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d3dzoccj.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201110141022.p9EAMrUN030848@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (Mark Kettenis's message of "Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:22:53 +0200 (CEST)")
Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl> writes:
>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:13:31 +0200
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>
>> > > If we are going to switch to a dVCS, git is not the only choice. I
>> > > like bzr better; bzr is a GNU project, unlike git.
>> >
>> > Given your question above, does bzr fulfill the roles any better than
>> > GIT?
>>
>> Yes, definitely. For starters, it works on Posix and Windows
>> platforms alike. Emacs uses bzr as its VCS for the last 2 years or
>> so.
>
> I'm a git hater. And the reason I hate GIT is because of the
> development model it enforces. It doesn't match the way I work. My
> workflow looks more or less as follows:
>
> $ cvs update
> (make some changes)
git pull will fetch and merge changes.
> ...
> (come back a couple of days later)
> $ cvs update
> (merge conflicts, make some more changes)
> ...
Same as above.
> $ cvs update
> (test changes, write changelog, send diff for review)
> ...
No different, if this is how you choose to use GIT.
> $ cvs update
> (test changes again, fixup changelog)
No difference.
> $ cvs commit
git commit
then
git push
> With lots of "cvs diff" invocations in between to check my changes and
> remind myself what I'm working on.
I think this is where GIT would benefit most. This is something that
GIT, imo, does far faster, and far better than CVS.
> I've used SVN, Mercurial and all of those VCSes have commands that are
> close enough to CVS that they've allowed me to keep the same workflow
> and didn't require me to look at their documentation for every command
> I run.
But I don't see how your workflow changes, at all. You can use GIT with
a CVS-like workflow just fine.
> With GIT there's several additional commands I have to run,
> and I have to commit half-finished work, which I can't bring myself to
> do. (I've tried git stash, but it didn't seem to support my
> development style, at least "unstashing" didn't "just work" when I did
> a git fetch in between).
Nope, you don't have to commit half finished work at all. Commit it if
you want, or just keep it local as with CVS.
> How does bzr compare here? Is it close enough to CVS that there is a
> 1:1 mapping of commands with perhaps an additional command to "push"
> changes upstream?
I don't know. My one brief experience with bzr while checking out emacs
was painfully slow.
Cheers,
Phil
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-13 19:37 Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 20:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 20:55 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:33 ` DJ Delorie
2011-10-13 21:44 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 21:51 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:25 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:45 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 23:37 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 5:56 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 6:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 23:03 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 6:01 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 6:52 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 7:01 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 7:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 15:39 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 15:49 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:51 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 21:59 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 22:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 5:03 ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:14 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:56 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 6:04 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:20 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 10:23 ` Mark Kettenis
2011-10-14 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:09 ` Li, Rongsheng
2011-10-14 12:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 13:07 ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:32 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 15:05 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:52 ` Phil Muldoon [this message]
[not found] ` <83zkh3k419.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-10-14 15:47 ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 16:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 17:06 ` Matt Rice
2011-10-14 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-11 21:00 ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-12 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-12 15:30 ` Steinar Bang
2011-10-14 5:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14 15:38 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 12:36 ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 15:02 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 16:59 ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:58 ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:02 ` Paul_Koning
2011-10-16 15:04 ` Ralf Corsepius
2011-10-14 16:10 ` André Pönitz
2011-11-11 22:50 ` Pedro Larroy
2011-11-12 8:28 ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13 0:05 ` John Hein
2011-11-15 15:02 ` Tom Tromey
2011-11-16 16:59 ` Christopher Faylor
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