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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: pmuldoon@redhat.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GIT and CVS
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83aa93lu58.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201110141022.p9EAMrUN030848@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:22:53 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
> CC: pmuldoon@redhat.com, gdb@sourceware.org
> 
> $ cvs update
> (make some changes)
> ...
> (come back a couple of days later)
> $ cvs update
> (merge conflicts, make some more changes)
> ...
> $ cvs update
> (test changes, write changelog, send diff for review)
> ...
> $ cvs update
> (test changes again, fixup changelog)
> $ cvs commit
> [...]
> How does bzr compare here?  Is it close enough to CVS that there is a
> 1:1 mapping of commands with perhaps an additional command to "push"
> changes upstream?

Yes.  With bzr, you can "bind" your local branch to the upstream
repository, which then makes the workflow in that branch very similar
to what you have in CVS.  E.g., your workflow above will be literally
the same, except that "cvs" should be replaced with "bzr" (bzr has an
"update" command, which in a bound branch behaves exactly like "cvs
up"), and merge conflicts are extremely rare, because bzr is much
smarter about merges (as are git and Mercurial).  There isn't even the
need to use "bzr push", because in a bound branch "bzr commit" will
automatically commit locally and push upstream within the same
transaction.

You don't need to commit unfinished work, because "bzr up" in a bound
branch automatically merges the changes from upstream with your local
changes.

So you retain your CVS-like workflow, and in addition get all the
benefits of a dVCS: cheap branching, smart merges, possibility of
local commits (if you are off line), possibility of temporarily
"shelving" changes aside and returning to them later, etc.  But you
use all these beneficial features if you want to, you aren't forced to
do it.

Bzr on GNU/Linux is slower than git (any VCS is slower than git on
GNU/Linux), but I find it fast enough to not be an annoyance in
day-to-day work.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-14 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-13 19:37 Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 20:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 20:55   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:33     ` DJ Delorie
2011-10-13 21:44       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:43     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 21:51       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:25           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:41             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:44             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 10:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:19         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:45           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 23:37             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  5:56               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:51                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 23:03       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:51         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  6:01           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:52             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  7:01               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  7:13                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 15:39                 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 15:49                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:51     ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 21:59       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 22:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14  5:03           ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14  8:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:14       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:56         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14  6:04           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:20   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14  8:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 10:23       ` Mark Kettenis
2011-10-14 10:55         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-10-14 14:09           ` Li, Rongsheng
2011-10-14 12:54         ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 13:07           ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 14:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:32             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 15:05             ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:52         ` Phil Muldoon
     [not found]           ` <83zkh3k419.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-10-14 15:47             ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 16:12             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:20             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 17:06                 ` Matt Rice
2011-10-14 17:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-11 21:00         ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-12  8:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-12 15:30             ` Steinar Bang
2011-10-14  5:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14 15:38   ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 12:36 ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 16:59     ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:58   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Paul_Koning
2011-10-16 15:04       ` Ralf Corsepius
2011-10-14 16:10     ` André Pönitz
2011-11-11 22:50 ` Pedro Larroy
2011-11-12  8:28   ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13  0:05     ` John Hein
2011-11-15 15:02   ` Tom Tromey
2011-11-16 16:59     ` Christopher Faylor

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