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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: joseph@codesourcery.com, pmuldoon@redhat.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: GIT and CVS
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:17:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mxd41qu4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111013215927.GA13931@host1.jankratochvil.net>

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:59:28 +0200
> From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
> Cc: Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>, gdb@sourceware.org
> 
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:50:33 +0200, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> > Even with local disk, git is much more I/O intensive.  I timed looking at 
> > logs from a glibc checkout on local disk:
> > 
> > $ time git log > /dev/null
> > 
> > real    0m18.324s
> > user    0m0.560s
> > sys     0m0.304s
> 
> $ time git log >/dev/null
> 
> real	0m0.374s
> user	0m0.330s
> sys	0m0.041s
> 
> You cannot count the first operation, before ./.git gets cached.  The first
> read is deficiency of kernel filesystem, pre-read and/or no SSD on your system.

These comparisons are meaningless.  Logs are meant to be read by
humans, so the number of seconds it takes to dump all the log entries
to the null device is not an interesting measure of any practical
importance.

More to the point: ChangeLog files can be generated from a VCS log
when a release is tarred.  They can also be generated when a developer
wants a convenient file to look at with usual tools.  So whether or
not to keep the ChangeLog files is not the issue.  The issue is how to
save the committers the need to compose 2 different logs, one for the
commit, the other for the ChangeLog.  This issue should be resolved by
the VCS front end in use, like Emacs or whatever people use.  When
such solutions exist, it is no longer an important issue whether to
keep ChangeLog's in the repo or generate them as needed.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-13 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-13 19:37 Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 20:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 20:55   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:33     ` DJ Delorie
2011-10-13 21:44       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 21:43     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 21:51       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:25           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:41             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:44             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 10:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 22:19         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 22:45           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 23:37             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  5:56               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:51                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-13 23:03       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:51         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  6:01           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  6:52             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14  7:01               ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14  7:13                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2011-10-14 15:39                 ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 15:49                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:51     ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 21:59       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 22:08         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-13 22:17         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-10-14  5:03           ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14  8:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:14       ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-13 23:56         ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14  6:04           ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-13 21:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-13 23:20   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14  8:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 10:23       ` Mark Kettenis
2011-10-14 10:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:09           ` Li, Rongsheng
2011-10-14 12:54         ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 13:07           ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 14:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:32             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-14 15:05             ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 14:52         ` Phil Muldoon
     [not found]           ` <83zkh3k419.fsf@gnu.org>
2011-10-14 15:47             ` Jonas Maebe
2011-10-14 16:12             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:20             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-14 16:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 17:06                 ` Matt Rice
2011-10-14 17:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-11 21:00         ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-12  8:30           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-12 15:30             ` Steinar Bang
2011-10-14  5:10 ` Joel Brobecker
2011-10-14 15:38   ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-10-14 12:36 ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-14 16:59     ` André Pönitz
2011-10-14 14:58   ` Phil Muldoon
2011-10-14 15:02     ` Paul_Koning
2011-10-16 15:04       ` Ralf Corsepius
2011-10-14 16:10     ` André Pönitz
2011-11-11 22:50 ` Pedro Larroy
2011-11-12  8:28   ` Steinar Bang
2011-11-13  0:05     ` John Hein
2011-11-15 15:02   ` Tom Tromey
2011-11-16 16:59     ` Christopher Faylor

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